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Post by bonnie on Mar 22, 2011 20:17:03 GMT -5
Kathy36610, you have a wonderful imagination. I like what you have done with your characters. Really good.
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Post by toseland on Mar 22, 2011 22:58:35 GMT -5
It was pretty unsurprising that Bill died in the last episode. They just had to come up with an unexpected way to do it, hence Carl, but I thought Carl was a really lame choice because he was a totally uninteresting character. After all those sinister crazy people they've met along the way he gets shot in broad daylight by a neighbour who's embarrassed about his lawn-keeping reputation? I think that was a bit of a stretch. The best part was the ghost theme. Bill's vision in the church was creepy, and Bill sitting at the table when the three wives hug at the end was incredibly creepy. There's also some poltergeist activity in Margene's last blog when she's talking about how Bill is still there in their home.
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 22, 2011 23:01:41 GMT -5
Poltergeist. Interesting. I noticed the blinking lights and wondered what that was about. Didn't think of Bill.
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Post by duets on Mar 22, 2011 23:02:41 GMT -5
This is really random, but I was thinking about the symbolism of the fact that there were 3 shots that killed Bill. Three wives. All of the inherent religious significance. Maybe I'm just reading too much in, but a thought... I think it was intended to be 3, as the shots were being fired, all 3 wives were in the kitchen together cooking, as each fire was sounded, the camera then panned to each wife [1 by1].
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Post by lovely on Mar 22, 2011 23:06:14 GMT -5
I must say I wasn't too shocked at Bill being killed in the final episode either. I couldn't believe it was Carl and not Alby, some other crazy person from the show or even Don for that matter (this man took a lot from Bill). I think that choosing Carl do it was a good move on the writers part. Bill never would suspect someone like Carl.
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Post by duets on Mar 22, 2011 23:25:45 GMT -5
I must say I wasn't too shocked at Bill being killed in the final episode either. I couldn't believe it was Carl and not Alby, some other crazy person from the show or even Don for that matter (this man took a lot from Bill). I think that choosing Carl do it was a good move on the writers part. Bill never would suspect someone like Carl. I agree, Carl was the least expected one to have pulled it off. Bill & Carl didn't have a close relationship to speak of except that they were neighbors who exchanged hello's from across the street from time to time. Bill & family shared a cookout with them once. Now Pam & Margene are another story; but as for Carl & Bill, he was the one I would have least expected. Goes to show how this can happen in real life, as far as how well do you really know your neighbor? {rhetorically}
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Post by paleskinbeauty on Mar 23, 2011 0:22:47 GMT -5
Poltergeist. Interesting. I noticed the blinking lights and wondered what that was about. Didn't think of Bill. GAHHHHHHHH I just went back and watched it. OMG!
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Post by duets on Mar 23, 2011 0:34:04 GMT -5
Poltergeist. Interesting. I noticed the blinking lights and wondered what that was about. Didn't think of Bill. GAHHHHHHHH I just went back and watched it. OMG! Yes, the lights were blinking green.
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Post by LD no S on Mar 23, 2011 0:49:13 GMT -5
Poltergeist. Interesting. I noticed the blinking lights and wondered what that was about. Didn't think of Bill. i TOTALLY took that to mean that Bill was still there, "in spirit" ... Margene even mentions Bill and this being "home" (or something to that effect) just before the lights flicker ...
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Post by nychic on Mar 23, 2011 2:10:53 GMT -5
nychic I thought of you when I saw the street scenes, and the pull back with the view from overhead. Plus the after the episode piece is entirely on the street -- your street, now! Me too. I was thinking, wow, NYChic stood right there where all the final action took place! I actually stood where bill died too. lol
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Post by duets on Mar 23, 2011 2:15:23 GMT -5
Me too. I was thinking, wow, NYChic stood right there where all the final action took place! I actually stood where bill died too. lol I'm still WOW-ing over that!
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 23, 2011 5:06:59 GMT -5
I must say I wasn't too shocked at Bill being killed in the final episode either. I couldn't believe it was Carl and not Alby, some other crazy person from the show or even Don for that matter (this man took a lot from Bill). I think that choosing Carl do it was a good move on the writers part. Bill never would suspect someone like Carl. In one of the many interviews that the writers did they said that the reason they didn't choose Alby to do it was they didn't want evil to triumph over good.
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 23, 2011 10:16:14 GMT -5
Hmmmmm....at the risk of repeating myself. In literature and frequently in real life, great heroes are never killed by their great enemy, they are killed by a coward who is acting out of their own feelings of inferiority. They are killed because the assassin is envious of their position, their success, their visibility. The coward, the failure thinks that by killing the hero, he can somehow show the world his superiority. Who killed Lincoln, Jack Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Joseph Smith? Not their equals and rivals, but sick little men in whose minds bringing the big man down made them a big man. Motivated by resentment and envy, the failures of this world seek revenge on the successes.
To be fair to Carl, the writer said that the point they wanted to make with Carl was that he was a victim of the impossibly high standards set for men by the LDS church. He was made to feel himself a failure because, possibly through no fault of his own, he could not produce what he church expected of him, specifically children and wealth. The new sod (even though he complained about it to Bill when the TV crews tore up his lawn) was a symbol that he failed in his manly responsibilities.
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Post by paleskinbeauty on Mar 23, 2011 13:13:19 GMT -5
Personally, I think the ending worked. A good book has a begining, middle and end. If we were reading a novel and it had an ambigous ending, we would be less than happy.
Too many other good shows were not closed out with a definate point and I think it looses something.
I agree with you writerwannabe.
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Post by withay on Mar 23, 2011 23:41:03 GMT -5
Personally, I think the ending worked. A good book has a begining, middle and end. If we were reading a novel and it had an ambigous ending, we would be less than happy. Too many other good shows were not closed out with a definate point and I think it looses something. I agree with you writerwannabe. I also agree with both of you. I have been a little amused at all of the anger about BL having an ending that pretty much prevents anything else to follow. I have watched many other shows where the complaints were that the endings were not concrete enough. People are still fussing because every little plotline (tho I agree Joey and Wanda deserved more) was not answered. You cannot please all of the people...
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