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Post by jtg on Feb 22, 2010 0:05:16 GMT -5
Marilyn will be shocked to find out that Bill has plans on coming out as being polygamist. I don't think that she will be able to use that over his head for too long. He still has to win the election. It'll be fun watching how he finagles this. From the look of the previews for the next episode, looks like Marilyn's confronted. I wish they would have played her instead. I think they should have kept what they knew quiet until they had all their ducks in a row tho. We know that contract is going to be void, and I think Marilyn's going to use the polygamy against them, it would have been funny seeing Marilyn's position destroyed right before her eyes. Snake liker her would deserve it. Maybe they'll play along until the election, who knows.
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Post by JJ77 on Feb 22, 2010 1:49:23 GMT -5
I, admittedly, am a little confused by this plot as well. Partly b/c durign the scenes in realtion to it i was only 1/2 present from trying to process the scene before lol
anywho...
My understanding of it wasnt that Marilyn / paley / Reed don't want to own or run the casino. They basically just want keep it from succeeeding b/c it's failure helps their mutual interest in some way. What I dont graps is what their mutual interest is? Maybe some other party that marilyn lobbys for?
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Post by marigoldmama on Feb 22, 2010 9:10:49 GMT -5
I think I'm confused with Paley.
What is Paley's position exactly? Is he another senator?
So Bill will be a junior senator and Paley can have Bill like a puppet? Is this the motivation for Paley endorsing Bill?
And Marilyn cooked all of this up? Or at least was a player in it all?
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Post by albertaleon on Feb 22, 2010 9:52:29 GMT -5
I really do not have a good understanding about this story line. It seems to me that Marilyn really does not have much to stand on. If she threatens to out them as polygamist they could threaten to expose what she has done to them. Marilyn said it herself, politics is about building relationships. Jerry could make a very big deal about Marilyn and have her black listed in Washington DC.
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Post by southernsong on Feb 22, 2010 12:59:21 GMT -5
Did they get new writers for this season? They certainly don't seem to do much along the lines of fact checking. This whole senate race thing is very unbelievable. He easily would have already been outed as a polygamist. Too many people know for nothing to have been said. If Marilyn really is as corrupt as we are to believe, she would have already had that information known about her. And she doesn't have dirt on them because, while polygamy is illegal, so is what she has done. If she gets outed, she loses her job, as well.
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Post by k8ywith2 on Feb 22, 2010 17:19:20 GMT -5
This may shed some light on what they are doing with this storyline: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff_Indian_lobbying_scandalSo I think what is happening is that the Marilyn, Paley and Reed engineer the problems that convince the casino they need to hire the lobbyist- and then all three split the lobbyist's fees.
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Post by rhinestone_cowgirl on Feb 22, 2010 18:07:07 GMT -5
Its basically like a protection racket; thats how I understood it. Over here in the UK in some cities there are big gangs (who in many cases it turns out are all run by the same person or people; and police corruption has been involved) they go to business owners and ask for protection money as they say that the other gang will rob or damage their store if they don't, but if they don't pay up that 'protecting' gang will bust-up their store in revenge. By the way the writers did do their research with regard to the country code on the fax; its correct folks
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Post by rhinestone_cowgirl on Feb 22, 2010 18:09:20 GMT -5
and I think 'ron reed' is actually based on this guy (didn't do exactly much to disguise that....) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_E._Reed,_Jr. Especially read the point referenced 23 close to the bottom; hmm all of them in Scotland where have we seen that?
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Post by rissmeek on Feb 22, 2010 20:42:34 GMT -5
Did they get new writers for this season? They certainly don't seem to do much along the lines of fact checking. This whole senate race thing is very unbelievable. He easily would have already been outed as a polygamist. Too many people know for nothing to have been said. If Marilyn really is as corrupt as we are to believe, she would have already had that information known about her. And she doesn't have dirt on them because, while polygamy is illegal, so is what she has done. If she gets outed, she loses her job, as well. This isn't a state election. It's a local election, he's going to SLC to represent those he lives near. Here at least they are very low key. There are some signs in people's yards maybe a newspaper article about the candidates that's it. I doubt anyone really gives a hoot about who's running.
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Post by JJ77 on Feb 23, 2010 7:14:24 GMT -5
I highly suggest that everyone follow the link Soph posted. Check out the photo caption and also point 6. "indian gambling scandal"
This seems to be exactly what is happening on the show and explains how ( or rather why) paley/ reed/ densham are in bed together.
In the real life drama... Reed is still REED. lol Densham could be "jack abramhof" and Paley could easily be "Tom Delay" / "Bob Ney"
check it out... seems they're ripping this stuff right former the headlines all the way around on the show.
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Post by JJ77 on Feb 23, 2010 7:18:05 GMT -5
Especially read the point referenced 23 close to the bottom; hmm all of them in Scotland where have we seen that? didnt Reed even make some golf reference as he was ending the conference call with barb and Tommy? LOL The phot and caption on wiki you linked to said they were at "at Carnoustie, the famed Scottish golf course" Nice...
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Post by biglovelove on Feb 23, 2010 9:10:23 GMT -5
I hope Barb can straighten this out too. I am tired of Bill getting to do whatever Bill wants. He runs around hurting people and never has to pay for what he does.
I want Barb to have a good moment all to herself.
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Post by miceelf on Feb 23, 2010 9:45:25 GMT -5
Marilyn also has to have a personal vendetta against Bill -- she has disliked him intensely since they first met and he made the sexist assumption that she couldn't possibly be a law partner -- since she is female she MUST be a mere secretary. I think she wants to bring him down. HARD.
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Post by rissmeek on Feb 24, 2010 0:00:16 GMT -5
Especially read the point referenced 23 close to the bottom; hmm all of them in Scotland where have we seen that? didnt Reed even make some golf reference as he was ending the conference call with barb and Tommy? LOL The phot and caption on wiki you linked to said they were at "at Carnoustie, the famed Scottish golf course" Nice... Yes Reed said he had to go so he didn't miss his tee time.
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Post by wurks on Feb 24, 2010 13:48:21 GMT -5
Following this storyline as per the wiki link, (that did shed light on the topic) the next lobby target would be the religious organizations ... ie FLDS/Juniper.
This is most likely where Marilyn is headed with this next, to extort Bill and his religion for his ties to religion / polygamy / UEB trust, etc.
under the pretext of helping to lobby for "legalization" of course.
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