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Post by charlottelaurie on Feb 11, 2010 17:01:22 GMT -5
Wow, count me in here re: the Senate race and the casino. I keep thinking that the whole idea IS to have everything blow up in their faces and that will be the catalyst to send them back to Juniper Creek. Otherwise why would Bill go back?
And on another note, wouldn't Don be in danger of going to prison, not for polygamy but for insurance fraud in putting the wives on the payroll in no-show jobs?
I still love the show, but I really liked the character-driven episdoes early on a lot more that the plot-driven ones we are seeing now.
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Post by JJ77 on Feb 11, 2010 21:24:05 GMT -5
I reac in an interview with the show's writers recently that they plan to slow the pace next season. coser to their exact words - being more story and less action driven. so maybe the frantic pace of this season is just another means of showing things spinning out of control ?
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Post by ladykc on Feb 11, 2010 21:48:01 GMT -5
If he does go back to Juniper Creek, I wonder who will come and who will stay behind. I can't see Margie in Juniper Creek. And I seriously doubt Barb would go.
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Post by aliensummer on Feb 12, 2010 10:28:45 GMT -5
I'm thinking that when the polygamy secret gets out, Barb and Margene will have no option but to go with Bill to Juniper Creek. At that point, Margene's career will be over, they'll be social outcasts, and everyone will know that they are just as much polygamists as Bill is. I think that Bill will only go back to Juniper if he has to, and I think he will have to because of the sheer amount of attention the whole family will have attracted, including Barb, Margene, and their children.
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Post by dsc6 on Feb 12, 2010 14:01:54 GMT -5
Each episode this season that makes me think the series is jumping the shark is followed by a brilliant episode that seemed just right. That being said, the Senate run, first, then the Don thing, second, are just over the edge. Jeez, all these seasons obsessing over the casino getting started, and here it is finally up and running, and Bill just blows it off onto Barb? ? That just would not happen, I think. And Don would never agree to doing what he did unless Bill agreed to pay him off but big. And even then, Don has put himself in legal jeopardy. What is going on with that??? The other plot lines are keeping me involved. I'm sick of Sissy's character already.
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Post by ragnarockette on Feb 14, 2010 18:47:12 GMT -5
I think, in a way, this season still is focusing on the "Church of Bill." The problem is that Bill's not content to have a little one-room church with his family and Don - he's going global. Only now that he is, he realizes that the small little church is disintegrating.
I think the writers are setting Bill up for a major disaster which will be good for him. I do think the series is eventually headed to him accepting the role of prophet, but I think he has to swallow his pride first, and (like Lois said in Season 1) "remember where you come from." He'll never be one of the LDS bigwigs in SLC - he'll always be this wounded, subversive, compound boy. In the end he will embrace it.
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Post by esloan on Feb 15, 2010 1:12:25 GMT -5
This is my first post on this forum but I feel that I need to chime in here regarding the Senate race and my feelings on why Bill has not been outed yet. Please bear with me in this long explanation.
First of all, I think Bill has not been outed for the same reason JFK, Franklin Roosevelt and many other American politicians were not outed in their indiscretions. Politics is an insiders club. JFK had an adulterous relationship with Marilyn Monroe for years, yet that information never filtered out to the American public until years later. Many knew of it but no one talked about it. Even his political enemies stayed quiet for years. Politics is an insider's club and using someones skeletons against them only invites your own skeletons to be used against you. That is something no politician wants.
But even deeper and more prominent is the Mormon side of the equation. Polygamy is still a deep wound for most Mormons, even today. It is their "dirty little secret" in many ways and is still part of their not too distant past. I have know many Mormons and polygamy is still something they do not like to talk about. Unmasking another seemingly (to the public at least) devout Mormon, who just happens to be running for office, is not something any of them would lightly do. It would invite more criticism to the Mormon church, in the same way that every time a prominent Catholic priest is revealed as a pedophile does damage to the entire Catholic church.
Many non-Mormons would look at the "unmasking" and simply say; "See! Another of those Mormons revealed as a polygamist! Those guys are all off their rockers!". Not something the Mormon church wants if they can avoid it.
Just about everyone who knows Bill is a polygamist is a Mormon. The Temple, obviously, the Governor who ran the Beehive Mother of the Year contest, his political rival...all of them are Mormons. None of them want a prominent businessman, successful (seemingly) family man and devout (seemingly!) Mormon exposed as a polygamist. It would be a major blow to the Mormon church.
I would imagine, at this point, all of the people who know he is a polygamist are simply hoping that Bill loses and goes quietly away. However, I believe, that as the stretch run of the campaign gets close and Bill is holding his own in the race or worse, in the lead, you will start to see the truth come out. The only thing that could be worse for the Mormon church than having a successful polygamist running for office, is if that polygamist won...and then was outed.
As the race draws to a close the truth will come out if Bill is in any position to win. But until that time comes, they are willing to stay quiet and hope he loses and goes away. That is the best way to not give the church the black eye that it would surely get if Bill was outed.
That's my take. Thoughts?
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Feb 15, 2010 1:52:09 GMT -5
This is my first post on this forum but I feel that I need to chime in here regarding the Senate race and my feelings on why Bill has not been outed yet. Please bear with me in this long explanation. First of all, I think Bill has not been outed for the same reason JFK, Franklin Roosevelt and many other American politicians were not outed in their indiscretions. Politics is an insiders club. JFK had an adulterous relationship with Marilyn Monroe for years, yet that information never filtered out to the American public until years later. Many knew of it but no one talked about it. Even his political enemies stayed quiet for years. Politics is an insider's club and using someones skeletons against them only invites your own skeletons to be used against you. That is something no politician wants. But even deeper and more prominent is the Mormon side of the equation. Polygamy is still a deep wound for most Mormons, even today. It is their "dirty little secret" in many ways and is still part of their not too distant past. I have know many Mormons and polygamy is still something they do not like to talk about. Unmasking another seemingly (to the public at least) devout Mormon, who just happens to be running for office, is not something any of them would lightly do. It would invite more criticism to the Mormon church, in the same way that every time a prominent Catholic priest is revealed as a pedophile does damage to the entire Catholic church. Many non-Mormons would look at the "unmasking" and simply say; "See! Another of those Mormons revealed as a polygamist! Those guys are all off their rockers!". Not something the Mormon church wants if they can avoid it. Just about everyone who knows Bill is a polygamist is a Mormon. The Temple, obviously, the Governor who ran the Beehive Mother of the Year contest, his political rival...all of them are Mormons. None of them want a prominent businessman, successful (seemingly) family man and devout (seemingly!) Mormon exposed as a polygamist. It would be a major blow to the Mormon church. I would imagine, at this point, all of the people who know he is a polygamist are simply hoping that Bill loses and goes quietly away. However, I believe, that as the stretch run of the campaign gets close and Bill is holding his own in the race or worse, in the lead, you will start to see the truth come out. The only thing that could be worse for the Mormon church than having a successful polygamist running for office, is if that polygamist won...and then was outed. As the race draws to a close the truth will come out if Bill is in any position to win. But until that time comes, they are willing to stay quiet and hope he loses and goes away. That is the best way to not give the church the black eye that it would surely get if Bill was outed. That's my take. Thoughts? Welcome to the board esloan!!! I think you have a great point...Perhaps this is why the writers plan on bringing Sissy Spacek back next season...Because even thought she may find out Bill is a polygamist...She doesn't want her own dirty laundry to screw up her deal with the flutes casino.
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Post by kimbie on Feb 15, 2010 15:20:56 GMT -5
Esloan...great post & great points. When you think of it like an insider it all makes sense...as you pointed out. It works for me!
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Post by cherylr6 on Feb 21, 2010 22:03:02 GMT -5
Now the show has jumped the shark. I don't know what that episode was...
Once you have infertility, a menopause pregnancy, a green card marriage, ostriches and a arm cut off with a bread knife...
I need to decompress.
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Feb 21, 2010 22:21:12 GMT -5
Now the show has jumped the shark. I don't know what that episode was... Once you have infertility, a menopause pregnancy, a green card marriage, ostriches and a arm cut off with a bread knife... I need to decompress. LMFAO I know this is too much I agree...
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Post by rhinestone_cowgirl on Feb 22, 2010 13:54:46 GMT -5
Much as I love the show its getting into daytime soap territory, only with better budgets/sets and a years worth of storylines crammed into just 9 episodes. Next season, Bill will have an evil twin.
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Post by rhinestone_cowgirl on Feb 22, 2010 18:58:23 GMT -5
Well whaddya know; I made my last comment before I watched this episode; and who happens to be in this episode? Hank Cheyne who played police officer Ricardo in ropey soap opera of the late 90s Sunset Beach (and not much else) playing a......police officer seems from IMDB he'll be in a couple more episodes as well
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Post by kiasmama on Feb 22, 2010 23:39:09 GMT -5
yeah that ep was silly. That mexico thing was too much. I liked the bird smuggling plot, but Bill coming in and saving the day....oh please. I can live with Bill not being outed while running for senate, but this just put me over the top. There are so many other interesting things going on with nikki, wanda, jj, etc...why put this bull about saving the day in mexico in there. The senate, casino stuff is starting to grate on me a bit as well.
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Post by morgain13 on Feb 24, 2010 17:16:22 GMT -5
Just about everyone who knows Bill is a polygamist is a Mormon. The Temple, obviously, the Governor who ran the Beehive Mother of the Year contest, his political rival...all of them are Mormons. None of them want a prominent businessman, successful (seemingly) family man and devout (seemingly!) Mormon exposed as a polygamist. It would be a major blow to the Mormon church. Hi there. I am a newbie too. My thoughts on the above part of your post: What about the school that Raymond (or was it Wayne) goes to? They are Catholic. I know its a local election but someone in that school must be interested in politics. and what about Ray? I know he left town but being in law enforcement he probably still keeps tabs on what is going on there - would he just let it be?
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