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Post by duets on Mar 20, 2011 22:41:29 GMT -5
Yes, Betheasz, I think that sounds right. There is something sweet there, and an expression of real love. It's along the lines of a Romeo & Juliet ending.
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Post by albertaleon on Mar 20, 2011 22:53:05 GMT -5
I think Frank was telling Lois about when they were sealed & what came after that. It would be like Bill telling Nicki "when we got married we lived in a one person home; after we married Margene you really threw an elbow because the house was being over crowded, and by the time our son was five I moved you into your very own new house."
I think that Frank was telling Lois everything that happened after the pair of them were married - Roberta was Frank's First Wife - after she died Lois expected to become Legal / First wife. Frank thinking that Lois poisoned him said no. Bill gave Frank thousands of dollars, tar and roofing shingles in exchange for making Lois Legal / First Wife - Bill told Frank that he would cut the check & have the supplies delivered as soon as he saw the marriage certificate.
The scene with Frank & Lois in bed drifting into Eternity together was one of the most touching scenes of all times, in my opinion.
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Post by paleskinbeauty on Mar 21, 2011 1:02:21 GMT -5
Also...Frank and Lois didnt have to suffer the death of their son. I do like how tender adn sweet Frank had been with Lois this season.
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Post by calimomof4 on Mar 21, 2011 1:22:51 GMT -5
I don't think Frank killed himself. He fulfilled Lois wishes and cleaned up the "mess" he created. His self-worth wasn't tied up in Lois; he only took interest in her condition after the sister wives left him.
I prefer the show ends with Frank facing a lonely death in and out of the black hole that is the syphilitic brain. Lois is gone, Bill is gone, who is left that feels an obligation towards him?
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Post by corajack on Mar 21, 2011 1:57:30 GMT -5
This "ending" is just like Isador and Ida Strauss was portrayed in the movie Titanic. If Frank did kill himself as well; that is. The movie (Cameron) showed them in bed together letting the water take them away together since Ida refused to leave her husband. The true story is that they were both sitting on deck chairs when the ship finally went down. Still, if the writers were basing it on the Cameron story it's very, very similar.
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Post by limeade on Mar 21, 2011 4:04:42 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I simply cannot forget or forgive the character of Frank for the last several seasons just because he was coerced into being nice and loving to his wife in her last days. Only after all his other wives left him and only after he felt guilt over giving Lois the disease that caused her to waste away so horrifically in the first place. Couples have troubles -- the fight, have rocky times, maybe even break up for a time... but these two literally tried killing one another. It's not a normal hostility. The scene is sweet, sure. But it doesn't make everything okay. It doesn't redeem him in any sort of way, either, IMO. He was an awful man that had nobody else left and nothing else left and no power left, and Lois was the only thing there he could hold onto. Meh.
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Post by duets on Mar 21, 2011 4:22:07 GMT -5
This "ending" is just like Isador and Ida Strauss was portrayed in the movie Titanic. If Frank did kill himself as well; that is. The movie (Cameron) showed them in bed together letting the water take them away together since Ida refused to leave her husband. The true story is that they were both sitting on deck chairs when the ship finally went down. Still, if the writers were basing it on the Cameron story it's very, very similar. Interesting Corajack, & thanks for sharing the Titanic story [truth] w/Isador & Ida Strauss in Titanic. I love that movie.
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Post by duets on Mar 21, 2011 4:36:28 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I simply cannot forget or forgive the character of Frank for the last several seasons just because he was coerced into being nice and loving to his wife in her last days. Only after all his other wives left him and only after he felt guilt over giving Lois the disease that caused her to waste away so horrifically in the first place. Couples have troubles -- the fight, have rocky times, maybe even break up for a time... but these two literally tried killing one another. It's not a normal hostility. The scene is sweet, sure. But it doesn't make everything okay. It doesn't redeem him in any sort of way, either, IMO. He was an awful man that had nobody else left and nothing else left and no power left, and Lois was the only thing there he could hold onto. Meh. I tend to agree with ya here, great expression RE: Frank & Lois, btw. Their relationship was anything but what most would consider 'normal'. On the other hand, I did enjoy their humerous scene's between the two of them. Fictionally speaking. But in reality, I couldn't give Frank any feather's in his cap for the cruel things he did.
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Post by bbus on Mar 21, 2011 12:21:43 GMT -5
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Post by birdie16 on Mar 21, 2011 12:38:28 GMT -5
I watched it again and have to agree, it was just Lois. There was only one syringe and Lois is the only one that drifted away, Frank was very clear about his story telling. I felt if was a very moving scene and I am glad the writers were able to show the warm side of Frank and Lois.
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Post by marigoldmama on Mar 21, 2011 13:27:59 GMT -5
we all passionately hated Frank. I don't think there were any Frank fans, where there??? In the end, Lois did love him.
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Post by duets on Mar 21, 2011 16:24:46 GMT -5
Oh great, now Frank can continue to spread his VD among many. Yuck.
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Post by mbb7 on Mar 21, 2011 16:26:15 GMT -5
I loved Franks moustache!
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 21, 2011 16:34:40 GMT -5
From an interview with the creators:
TVLINE | Did Frank commit suicide too? Olsen: He did not. We tried to clarify that when we saw the footage we had. In one of the close-up shots there had been two needles on that bureau, and we tried to erase one of them to indicate that there was only one injection. We toyed around with [adding] a line for Frank where at the very end of the scene he said, “Good-bye Peaches,” but it felt really ham-fisted. So we’re sorry if there was any ambiguity there. It was just Lois [who died].
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