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Post by southernsong on Feb 19, 2011 18:54:16 GMT -5
You are so right, Withay. We are supposed to believe that only about 2 to 2 and a half years have passed since the very first episode. In that time, they have opened a second Home Plus, tried to open a third, bought Weber gaming, built a casino, opened a casino, and run for public office. I cannot see how these things happened in such a short amount of time.
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Post by withay on Feb 20, 2011 1:42:22 GMT -5
 I think that Barb will be first wife as long as she considers herself to be Bills wife and as long as Bill says so. In other words, if Bill legally divorces Barb and legally marries Nikki but the family still is Bill, Barb, Nikki, Marg and the kids, Barb is still first wife because Bill declares it so. Remember when Franks first wife died and he declared one of his other wives to be first wife and Lois was ballistic? There was no legal marriage that took place before Frank made his declaration. Or did I miss something? I think you are right. It is somewhat traditional that the legal wife is first wife, just as it is traditional that the legal wife is literally the first wife taken. But the "boss lady" is whoever Bill says it is, though I expect Nicki to try and make a power play. Remember, Adalene, her mother, said she "stepped over the backs of six women to become first wife." |
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Post by southernsong on Feb 20, 2011 9:15:42 GMT -5
Also, when Joey was going to marry Kathy, Wanda told her that she wanted her to be first wife and Wanda to be second wife. Legal marriages don't seem to dictate first wife status. However, I do think Nicki will try to make it so.
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Post by kambria on Feb 20, 2011 22:14:17 GMT -5
There's something I'm not getting right, is Barb not going to be first wife anymore? She's definetely not going to be the legal wife, but that doesn't mean anything, right? Nicki will have her wedding day, a beautiful party, and hundreds of guests, but in the end, everything will stay the same. The only thing that changes, imo, is that Barb won't have her special relationship with Bill anymore, but that's not new, she lost it some time ago. I'm confused as to why they would have a wedding ceremony at all. After all, it is only a "paper marriage", right? What is the purpose of having a wedding and inviting people if it is just to adopt Cara Lynn? I smell B.S.!! |
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Post by kambria on Feb 28, 2011 2:58:16 GMT -5
So disappointed that Nikki got her way. And now that she was sealed with Bill and Margene without Barb, she is going to really feel like first wife. She is too emotionally unstable to be first wife. She lies, she manipulates, and she constantly thinks up schemes to get her way. I can't stand her...
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Post by sportyone on Feb 28, 2011 3:14:38 GMT -5
So disappointed that Nikki got her way. And now that she was sealed with Bill and Margene without Barb, she is going to really feel like first wife. She is too emotionally unstable to be first wife. She lies, she manipulates, and she constantly thinks up schemes to get her way. I can't stand her... ITA and that little smirk she has on her face makes me so angry. Now, that the wedding has taken place & Bill, Marge and Nikki have "resealed" where does that leave Barb? I wonder if they are going to tell her of their resealing or just keep it a secret. Or maybe, Barb will bring it up. Such a complicated relationship between all of them! |
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Post by samantha on Feb 28, 2011 6:55:22 GMT -5
So disappointed that Nikki got her way. And now that she was sealed with Bill and Margene without Barb, she is going to really feel like first wife. She is too emotionally unstable to be first wife. She lies, she manipulates, and she constantly thinks up schemes to get her way. I can't stand her... ITA and that little smirk she has on her face makes me so angry. Now, that the wedding has taken place & Bill, Marge and Nikki have "resealed" where does that leave Barb? I wonder if they are going to tell her of their resealing or just keep it a secret. Or maybe, Barb will bring it up. Such a complicated relationship between all of them! And Barb with her new beliefs; will she want to stay in the family? Isn't she already sick of Bill and his demands? I think so, but she just can't admit it out loud. She still wants her family and the children, but I don't think she wants the polygamy anymore. |
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Post by writerwannabe on Feb 28, 2011 8:50:54 GMT -5
Nikki's "reason" for the marriage to Bill, the adoption of Cara Lynn, just went out the window when the police picked up Barb. No court is going to let Bill adopt a teenager when he's been charged with statutory rape. In fact, in the real world, child protective services would either demand that Bill leave the home or else they would take Cara Lynn.
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Post by bridget on Feb 28, 2011 10:00:06 GMT -5
Right now it is just an open investigation. You don't get CPS involved unless there is an actual charge, and usually not unless there is a conviction.
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Post by writerwannabe on Feb 28, 2011 11:49:15 GMT -5
CPS does not require a formal charge by law enforcement to initiate an investigation. All they need is a reasonably credible report. Don't know how it works in Utah, but in my state CPS can remove a child if the CPS investigator finds reason to believe that the child is in danger. They have 24 hours to get a court order to keep the child. The preference is always to create safety by removing the alleged perp rather the child. CPS could require Bill to leave his personal "compound" rather than remove CL. The problem the family would have is that there is no adult who could be assumed to be willing to protect CL. Barb and Nikki failed to protect Margene, so you've got one perp and two accomplices out of the three adults in the family -- assuming that Margene is not yet 21.
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Post by bridget on Feb 28, 2011 11:52:52 GMT -5
Not for anything so extreme, but our family had CPS called on us once because we let our kids ride the public bus. They interviewed the kids, but when they made it clear that nothing improper was happening to them and they felt safe no further action was taken. The investigation showed that riding the bus does not constitute child abuse.
I don't know for sure what would happen in this situation, but I do know that they always do an investigation and there has to be some real reason to think the kids are in danger. They are all old enough to tell it like it is, I highly doubt they will be removed unless their parents end up in jail.
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Post by writerwannabe on Feb 28, 2011 11:56:57 GMT -5
Agreed, Bridget. CL is not in any danger from Bill, but political pressure can be applied. CPS would be totally justified in taking CL from a child sex abuser. Holding her could be just one more way to pressure Bill into resigning his senate seat.
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Post by firstwife on Feb 28, 2011 12:39:28 GMT -5
Yes, they would take all of the children.
What do you think was going through Bill's head when he saw Barb being driven away. Hopefully, it was "OH SHIT!!!"
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Post by duets on Feb 28, 2011 13:18:41 GMT -5
This should be cute, Bill w/his new legal wife (in her wedding dress) go strolling into the police station for Barb. This should just make Nicki's wedding night complete. What willll Bill do, just go pick Barb up then spend the night w/Nicki. Leaving Barb alone after this experience.
Probably, uh I hope Nicki had the wedding on the "her night" day,lol.
I somehow get the feeling that Barb isn't going to be home so swiftly, Bill will have to call his lawyer; before they interrogate her; (unless she gives up that right). Whatever happens will be quick & fast based upon only 3 epi's left. Next week should be an eye opener!
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Post by mottob27 on Feb 28, 2011 17:46:25 GMT -5
They probably won't have time to cover it but if the kids, or more importantly Cara Lynn are removed I think CL will try to be emancipated. Hell maybe if the kids are removed, Ben can move out and take over custody of all of the children with the help of Barb (who at this point left Bill because of his marriage to Nikki).
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