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Post by albertaleon on Jan 27, 2011 18:52:46 GMT -5
Why is Adaleen going to a Doctor demanding hormones to continue her pregnancy - JJ used IVF to combine Wanda's Egg with his Sperm and then transfered this embryo into Adaleen.
Adaleen is pregnant with JJ & Wanda's child - brother & sister. I wouldn't blame Adaleen if she stopped the hormones which would more than likely allow nature to take it's course - Adaleen's age would more than likely mean she would lose the baby without the hormones.
If Adaleen stopped the hormones I wouldn't be angry with Adaleen even though a life has been created - & stopping the hormones would probably mean this life would come to an end.
Adaleen is so determined to continue taking the hormones - which makes no sense to me b/c Adaleen knows the child created was done so in a scrupulous manner using siblings DNA. I would think Adaleen would want to stop taking the hormones or at least not so aggressive in obtaining hormones from another doctor. It would have been easy for Adaleen to see a doctor to get the hormones for the doctor to say no & for Adaleen to say something such as "I tried to get the hormones but the doctor said no."
Now I wonder if Adaleen's determined behavior towards maintaining the needed treatment to facilitate her pregnancy of a child that is JJ & Wanda (siblings) means the REAL father of the child Adaleen is carrying is Roman.
Only with Adaleen knowing Roman is really the father of her child would make me believe Adaleen continue taking the hormones. Also, Adaleen's shrine of Roman in her bed makes me think Adaleen knows Roman is the true father of the baby. I think the reasonable behavior of Adaleen being unknowingly made pregnant with sibling DNA would be to stop taking the hormones.
I hope this makes sense! Basically I don't think Adaleen would continue the hormones now since she knows who's baby she's carrying. It seems like Adaleen could easily let nature take it's course by stop taking the hormones - this would be easy for her to do b/c Adaleen really had to talk the doctor into giving her more hormones. Since Adaleen seems so determined to continue the hormones I have to wonder if Roman is really the father of her baby.
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Post by marigoldmama on Jan 27, 2011 19:27:44 GMT -5
Good point. I thought Adaleen is just lonely and a baby would bring her some joy. And don't forget, in the compound, relatives do marry. NOT siblings but it's not as far of a stretch for Adaleen as it would be for us. Maybe she brought Roman's sperm?
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Jan 27, 2011 19:43:29 GMT -5
I was under the impression the baby was Caralynn and JJ's??? I missed something here lol!
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Post by marigoldmama on Jan 27, 2011 20:22:58 GMT -5
I think you are right...it was CaraLynn and JJ. Didn't JJ want a pure bloodline? Or maybe it was Wanda and JJ? He was going to get Caralynn? Last year was so fast paced and confused! We can't get anything straight there from last season...look at all these posts where people are mixed up.
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Jan 27, 2011 20:37:57 GMT -5
Well I recall Caralynn having something done regarding her tonsils and he wanted to do a follow up really bad... Not sure if he already harvested her eggs or was planning on doing so.
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Post by withay on Jan 28, 2011 3:11:17 GMT -5
Well I recall Caralynn having something done regarding her tonsils and he wanted to do a follow up really bad... Not sure if he already harvested her eggs or was planning on doing so. I am pretty sure the baby is Wanda and JJ's. And remember, Wanda and JJ's parents were brother and sister also! I think the first procedure on Caralynn was to stimulate her ovaries and the 2nd would have been to harvest her eggs. Since the second procedure did not happen, Caralynn has no embryos.
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Post by southernsong on Jan 28, 2011 10:14:13 GMT -5
The baby is J.J.'s and Wanda's. When Nicki went to the clinic, she told Wanda she was going. That snapped Wanda out of her funk and she ran to Bill. She told Bill what all J.J. was doing and that JJ "put me and him inside of Adalene!". The baby in Adalene is J.J's and Wanda's.
The reason Adalene is keeping it is because she is a deeply religious woman who believes in the value of life - every life. That is how she explained it to the doctor. I believe that, since she knows what needs to be done to sustain the pregnancy, she would see it as an abortion if she lost the baby due to not getting those hormones. Abortion is strictly forbidden in almost all religions including all sects of Mormonism.
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Post by birdie16 on Jan 28, 2011 10:19:25 GMT -5
Her pregnancy is not a "mess from last year" that they can clean up fast. If they are going to have her lose the baby it will take a few episodes.
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Post by aliensummer on Jan 28, 2011 14:20:24 GMT -5
I agree with southersong. I think that the reason why Adaleen tried so desperately to get the hormones is because she knew she needed them in order to keep the baby alive. To do otherwise would've resulted in the death of the fetus, which Adaleen would've been guilty of since she didn't do her duty in keeping it alive (not necessarily what I believe, but I imagine that would be Adaleen's point of view).
I think that Adaleen having Roman set out on her bed like that was more to do with her feelings of loneliness and her devotion and love towards him, and didn't have anything to do with the paternity of the child.
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Post by duets on Jan 28, 2011 23:11:27 GMT -5
I agree, I think that Adelene is terribly lonely w/o Roman. I also think that she longs to share the pregnancy with Roman. Her thinking may be that she's proud to be w/child. He would be proud of her pregnancy per se. Not exactly how the conception occurred; but rather the fact that new life lives within her. Something she longs to share w/Roman & can't. So, the make-shift had to do.
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Post by liz3564 on Jan 28, 2011 23:26:15 GMT -5
The baby is J.J.'s and Wanda's. When Nicki went to the clinic, she told Wanda she was going. That snapped Wanda out of her funk and she ran to Bill. She told Bill what all J.J. was doing and that JJ "put me and him inside of Adalene!". The baby in Adalene is J.J's and Wanda's. The reason Adalene is keeping it is because she is a deeply religious woman who believes in the value of life - every life. That is how she explained it to the doctor. I believe that, since she knows what needs to be done to sustain the pregnancy, she would see it as an abortion if she lost the baby due to not getting those hormones. Abortion is strictly forbidden in almost all religions including all sects of Mormonism. Actually, abortion is not strictly forbidden in the Mormon religion. I am LDS, and abortion is perfectly acceptable in cases of rape, incest, or life of the mother. I would say that all three apply in Adaleen's case.
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Post by withay on Jan 28, 2011 23:58:14 GMT -5
The baby is J.J.'s and Wanda's. When Nicki went to the clinic, she told Wanda she was going. That snapped Wanda out of her funk and she ran to Bill. She told Bill what all J.J. was doing and that JJ "put me and him inside of Adalene!". The baby in Adalene is J.J's and Wanda's. The reason Adalene is keeping it is because she is a deeply religious woman who believes in the value of life - every life. That is how she explained it to the doctor. I believe that, since she knows what needs to be done to sustain the pregnancy, she would see it as an abortion if she lost the baby due to not getting those hormones. Abortion is strictly forbidden in almost all religions including all sects of Mormonism. Actually, abortion is not strictly forbidden in the Mormon religion. I am LDS, and abortion is perfectly acceptable in cases of rape, incest, or life of the mother. I would say that all three apply in Adaleen's case. While abortion would not be prohibited in Adalene's case, From what we know about her, I cannot imagine her not doing everything she can to preserve the life she carries. She would regard the child as an innocent.
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Post by liz3564 on Jan 29, 2011 0:00:56 GMT -5
True...and...also, it is mainstream LDS that allows abortion in the cases I mentioned. I doubt FLDS does.
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Post by albertaleon on Jan 30, 2011 13:43:20 GMT -5
I realize Adaleen's religious background - I also take Adaleen's & Niki's personality into account. Both Adaleen & Niki both bend the rules a little! I think it would have been easy for Adaleen to not get the hormones & chalk it off as "heavenly father didn't want this pregnancy to continue without JJ in the picture I couldn't get the hormones & went to a mainstream doctor but he said no." I'm just SHOCKED that Adaleen would go to a such great lengths to get the hormones to sustain her pregnancy -- a pregnancy which would have never been possible without the scrupulous actions of JJ. Adaleen at her age should not be pregnant - it's not a miracle that Adaleen is pregnant - Adaleen is pregnant because JJ had her pumped full of hormones & ordered an IVF procedure done on Adaleen. Due to the way Adaleen's pregnancy came about I would think Adaleen would stop taking the hormones & let nature take it's course. Again, both Adaleen & Niki bend the rules at times so I'm shocked Adaleen didn't bend the rules this time to end her pregnancy. Adaleen had no problem setting fire to JJ & his wife - which is murder & it's not following the rules of the compound. Adaleen had no right to set fire to JJ & his wife - if anything Adaleen was responsible for letting Alby decide what should happen to JJ if anything. Setting fire to JJ went along with Adaleen's personality - but fighting to get the hormones from a mainstream doctor to continue the treatment set in motion by JJ's warped vision doesn't go along with Adaleen's personality in my opinion.
Adaleen killed her husband & sister wife - correct? I just don't think wives have the right to kill their husband & sister wife under any circumstances. Yet Adaleen is going to continue getting the hormones to sustain her pregnancy - this just doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by albertaleon on Jan 30, 2011 13:43:37 GMT -5
I realize Adaleen's religious background - I also take Adaleen's & Niki's personality into account. Both Adaleen & Niki both bend the rules a little! I think it would have been easy for Adaleen to not get the hormones & chalk it off as "heavenly father didn't want this pregnancy to continue without JJ in the picture I couldn't get the hormones & went to a mainstream doctor but he said no." I'm just SHOCKED that Adaleen would go to a such great lengths to get the hormones to sustain her pregnancy -- a pregnancy which would have never been possible without the scrupulous actions of JJ. Adaleen at her age should not be pregnant - it's not a miracle that Adaleen is pregnant - Adaleen is pregnant because JJ had her pumped full of hormones & ordered an IVF procedure done on Adaleen. Due to the way Adaleen's pregnancy came about I would think Adaleen would stop taking the hormones & let nature take it's course. Again, both Adaleen & Niki bend the rules at times so I'm shocked Adaleen didn't bend the rules this time to end her pregnancy. Adaleen had no problem setting fire to JJ & his wife - which is murder & it's not following the rules of the compound. Adaleen had no right to set fire to JJ & his wife - if anything Adaleen was responsible for letting Alby decide what should happen to JJ if anything. Setting fire to JJ went along with Adaleen's personality - but fighting to get the hormones from a mainstream doctor to continue the treatment set in motion by JJ's warped vision doesn't go along with Adaleen's personality in my opinion.
Adaleen killed her husband & sister wife - correct? I just don't think wives have the right to kill their husband & sister wife under any circumstances. Yet Adaleen is going to continue getting the hormones to sustain her pregnancy - this just doesn't make sense to me.
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