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Post by albertaleon on Feb 23, 2010 2:35:08 GMT -5
Didn't Wanda try to kill one of her babies. I remember thinking "oh my God Wanda is going to kill her baby." She didn't. If I am remembering correctly about Wanda looking like she was going to kill her child, well Wanda was probably suffering with the knowledge that her child is the result of JJ's sperm and her egg.
I don't know who JJ would be harvesting eggs such as Wanda's and Nicki's. Wanda has come to Bill before about things. I hope Wanda tells Bill what is going on.
Nicki is clever and quick to figure things out. I hope Nicki figures it out before it's too late. Now, if JJ has been using Nicki's eggs that he harvested when Nicki was 15 all these years, and, this means Nicki has God only know how man children I do not know how Nicki will handle that. That would be a horrible thing to learn. The thought of something like that happening to Nicki makes me scared for her.
Wouldn't some people be aware that JJ is doing this. Why isn't JJ back at his compound? It would be nice to JJ leve.
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Post by JJ77 on Feb 23, 2010 6:18:16 GMT -5
I think we'll find out whats up next episode for sure.
That said, at this point I am convinced that JJ and his brother have artificially inseminated Adaleen and plan to do so to others as well. Nicki showing up to see the "doctor" could be a happy coincidence for them, or could have been plotted by JJ with adaleen used as a pawn.
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Post by frazzz on Feb 23, 2010 6:42:52 GMT -5
YES!!! I have felt for some time that JJ had inseminated some eggs, Wanda's or Nicki's, for future use. And Adalene's "miracle" baby will be the result. It would certainly "prove" that JJ should be the next prophet, having a baby with old Adalene.
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Post by biglovegirl on Feb 23, 2010 13:00:32 GMT -5
It all seems way too far out, yk? Like, unbelievable in any time and place. I've had my eggs harvested twice and there's no way you can have that done and not know something major happened to you. I'm not doubting this is the story line, just saying if they try to make us believe that these women didn't "realize" JJ's sons had harvested their eggs (even if they were under general) the show's lost a lot of validity IMO.
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Post by momacat on Feb 23, 2010 19:05:22 GMT -5
JJ and son are doing something to spread the seed. I think they are implanting embryos out of the sunshine clinic. The father has to be JJ and/or his son; the mother could be Wanda and/or Malinda. He's be keeping the pure bloodline somehow. He has a whole slew of compound women he could use as vessels for his unholy spawn. They all just want to have babies, babies, babies. And would be unlikely to question an FLDS doctor. Probably think he is giving them herbal treatments vaginally.
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Post by miceelf on Feb 23, 2010 21:21:39 GMT -5
It all seems way too far out, yk? Like, unbelievable in any time and place. I've had my eggs harvested twice and there's no way you can have that done and not know something major happened to you. I'm not doubting this is the story line, just saying if they try to make us believe that these women didn't "realize" JJ's sons had harvested their eggs (even if they were under general) the show's lost a lot of validity IMO. I think Wanda is well aware that JJ harvested her eggs, and that's why she's so upset. And he could have taken Malinda's, too, I could see her going along with the program. I think it's more likely Wanda's though, unless Malinda is also a blood relation. When Wanda started really freaking out, JJ told her to basically get her act together because she is a "Walker". I think the incest was purposeful to keep his family line pure, and he is trying to create a master "Walker" race.
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Post by marionj2 on Feb 24, 2010 10:04:33 GMT -5
It all seems way too far out, yk? Like, unbelievable in any time and place. I've had my eggs harvested twice and there's no way you can have that done and not know something major happened to you. I'm not doubting this is the story line, just saying if they try to make us believe that these women didn't "realize" JJ's sons had harvested their eggs (even if they were under general) the show's lost a lot of validity IMO. I agree that she knew, but she lives in a society where "perfect obedience" to the man in your life is the goal. She wouldn't have had a choice. This is another area where Big Love seems to exist out of time and space. A short time (maybe weeks - it's STILL summer in Utah) has gone by since Nicki and Bill got back together, but she already knows she's infertile, and has been "trying" for a long time, which in these terms means at least 6 months if not years. Long enough for doctor's tests, and for Adaleen to get instantly pregnant. I think JJ's son is implanting JJ's and Wanda's eggs in both Adaleen and Nicki. Too much?
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Post by cynicaljinx on Feb 24, 2010 17:56:48 GMT -5
Holy crap trixie! I had never even thought of that, but the possibility... even as completely bizarre as that would be - seems to fit. Wow... and wouldnt that fit with the whole inbreeding thing? I mean the real life "kingston clan" people have mentioned (from what I have read) beleived that in "keeping it in the family" they were cultivating superior boodines & it was a way for their leader to further control his family. I could defnitely see this being the case with JJ... he's the product of incest, as is wanda... wow. I think you may have hit the nail on the head . And i am not sure if it was the Kingston family or another ...But there was one family that was artificially inseminating the daughters with the father's sperm and arguing that it was not incest because intercourse did not occur! that sounds like Ross LeBaron: texaspolygamy.blogspot.com/2008/01/ross-lebaron-accused-by-sons-of-incest.html
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Post by JJ77 on Feb 24, 2010 20:26:35 GMT -5
www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy1062.htmlHere's another about lebaron borthers trying to get th law changed about incest. When they came forward with DNA proof that their father had chidlren who were the result of incest - they hit a brick wall when the defense said the children were the product of artificial insemination. Basically the "loophole" to the incest laws - because you cant charge incest if you cant proof sexual intercourse. How crazy is that??
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Feb 24, 2010 21:04:52 GMT -5
www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy1062.htmlHere's another about lebaron borthers trying to get th law changed about incest. When they came forward with DNA proof that their father had chidlren who were the result of incest - they hit a brick wall when the defense said the children were the product of artificial insemination. Basically the "loophole" to the incest laws - because you cant charge incest if you cant proof sexual intercourse. How crazy is that?? That is fricken CRAZY! If a family members sperm is inside of your vagina, that is incest I am sorry... In the words of Pauly Shore from Son In Law... "IN-BREEEEEDERS"
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