Wanda and her parents

[wundermommy]

Hey everyone! This is my 1st post here! ;D

I was really creeped out last night when Wanda's parents came into her house and then later on when Nicki walked in that room at the hotel and she was sitting there with them....what was that she said when Nicki asked where her daughter was? Wanda said something about being in the meadow with the ponies or something? VERY creepy. Esp when Wanda's parents tried to kiss Nicki!! I actually had to look away. Does anyone know the back story there? Where was Joey or Joey Jr. when JJ & his parents took Cara Lynn and Wanda to that hotel? Obviously Wanda experienced some horrible abuse as a child (looks like emotional and sexual abuse) at the hands of her parents and she probably regressed back to that part of you that tries to survive something horrible when she didn't make any sense speaking to Nicki at the hotel, but how is JJ involved? Did he abuse Wanda too? They always made Wanda's character a little off in the head, but if she had to deal with horrors like what was implied last night in only a minute or two of screen time, then I don't blame her!! I always liked Wanda. But I hate when they start a story line like this and then nothing about the situation is answered in the next episode, so I hope we find out the back story and how Wanda is doing after seeing her family again.

[jblovessharks]

its been speculated that JJ also sexually/emotionally abused wanda when they were younger (and maybe even till this day?) and that maybe the kid that she lost might have been a kid she'd had with JJ .. speculation of course!

I was hoping someone would bring up that scene too because I was totally creeped out. Especially knowing a particular spoiler about her parents (I won't say it here but it's in the spoilers section). I think that there was innapropriate contact going on definitely in that motel room.

OR, maybe she was being informed of being sealed to someone else (would explain Joey's absense). It's like, all the girls Nicki walked in on were crying and in the process of being married/sealed, it seemed a little out of place that randomly wanda would have a room as well unless she were also going through that

man i am horrible at explaining myself, but i hope someone understood some of what i was trying to say!

I really hope they focus more on this in the next episode. forget about anna and the election, i want to know more about JJ/Wanda/Nicki/CL etc etc!!

[samantha]

jblovessharks, I think I understand what you are trying to say.

The whole scene with Wanda and her parents totally creeped me out. It seemed to me that the father acted like he was having inappropriate touching in that scene - it went so quick and I'm glad. It was another scene that was difficult to watch. (The other being Adaleen and JJ. Ugh)

[wundermommy]

I agree, I'm more interested in the JJ/Wanda/Nicki story line than the stupid election!!

I really hope she wasn't there being sealed to someone else! I love her and Joey together! Can they do that without any notice to the current husband? And were her and Joey sealed or legally married? I really hope Wanda wasn't kidnapped! I didn't even suspect she was being sealed to someone else. I thought they had brought her there to keep it under wraps that Cara Lynn was being sealed to an older man.....you know, to keep her away from any phones (so she can't call Nicki) or anyone who might be able to stop the sealing. Also probably just to abuse her some more! So sick!

[bridget]

I also wondered if she was being sealed to someone else because everyone else in their rooms seemed to be doing that. I have no further insight, but the thought did cross my mind.

[jblovessharks]

and if it's true with the father (and maybe even the mother too) being innapropriate with wanda, then it really isn't a very far stretch to conclude that JJ would be/would have abused her too. I mean, in all reality the parents could have abused JJ too. It happens to boys as well as girls, and their family seems just the right degree of (insert some word here)...

not that I want to sympathize with or excuse any of JJ's behaviour, but if that is the case then i'm going to start wondering more about their parents and blaming them for everything.

and hm, nicki was married to JJ 15 years ago, and she's probably not that much younger than wanda... i wonder if the parents abused nicki too and that is also a factor into her leaving? i mean, we never really did find out what exactly it was that caused her to leave (and for roman to unseal her)

while roman seems to turn a blind eye on underage marriage and sexual conduct, it's probably all the incestuous stuff in that family that did it. but then why wouldn't he put a foot down on CL being allowed to leave too? surely if he cares for all his kids/grandkids the same.... and the fact he supposedly set CL up to be sealed before dying... GAH! someone needs to write all of this out in like an essay or timeline. it's getting so complicated

[jblovessharks]

Oh and here's a question! when Nicki burst in on Toby and CL in the motel room, JJ was right behind and he yelled osmething like 'wait nicki its not what you think!' and she got very angry and yelled at him, not letting him explain

what do you think it was, if it wasn't what we think it was? i mean, he could have just said that to cover himself from her getting angry but why would he bother when we all know nicki and she would react how she did regardless of what he said?

maybe JJ didn't want CL sealed either?

im just throwing out ideas! sorry if im going too far into it but it was just such a bizarre few scenes, i can't help but think there's something hidden in there the writers are trying to warn us about!

[cynicaljinx]

Feb 15, 2010 9:39:54 GMT -5 wundermommy said:

Hey everyone! This is my 1st post here! ;D

I was really creeped out last night when Wanda's parents came into her house and then later on when Nicki walked in that room at the hotel and she was sitting there with them....what was that she said when Nicki asked where her daughter was? Wanda said something about being in the meadow with the ponies or something? VERY creepy. Esp when Wanda's parents tried to kiss Nicki!! I actually had to look away. Does anyone know the back story there? Where was Joey or Joey Jr. when JJ & his parents took Cara Lynn and Wanda to that hotel? Obviously Wanda experienced some horrible abuse as a child (looks like emotional and sexual abuse) at the hands of her parents and she probably regressed back to that part of you that tries to survive something horrible when she didn't make any sense speaking to Nicki at the hotel, but how is JJ involved? Did he abuse Wanda too? They always made Wanda's character a little off in the head, but if she had to deal with horrors like what was implied last night in only a minute or two of screen time, then I don't blame her!! I always liked Wanda. But I hate when they start a story line like this and then nothing about the situation is answered in the next episode, so I hope we find out the back story and how Wanda is doing after seeing her family again.

You know, I'm beginning to think that the abuse was between Wanda and her father. And that JJ's "wife" (the ill one) may be JJ's half sister. It's looking like this is being based on Ross LeBaron and his Pure Seed Doctrine. A local reporter here in Phoenix (Mike Watkiss KTVK TV 3) has followed polygamy in AZ and his news reports on the LeBaron group are available on youtube.

[lynng]

That whole thing was off the charts, I found myself crinching! I think Wanda has been sexually abused by her Mom, Dad and JJ. Perhaps as a group.

[kimbie]

Feb 15, 2010 10:05:18 GMT -5 samantha said:

jblovessharks, I think I understand what you are trying to say.

The whole scene with Wanda and her parents totally creeped me out. It seemed to me that the father acted like he was having inappropriate touching in that scene - it went so quick and I'm glad. It was another scene that was difficult to watch. (The other being Adaleen and JJ. Ugh)

Yep, very creepy scene...I'm really wondering why Wanda & her parents were even in a room there, I can't figure out why they would be there, doing what? I really hope they explain some of this next epi...I'll have to read the spoilers, lol

[biglovegirl]

Well, of course JJ said "It's not what you think..." Famous last words, yk?

[kambria]

I agree with others that Wanda's parents were probably sexually abusing her (JJ as well). I hope the full truth comes out soon as is not dragged out until next season.

[prayforpeace]

Feb 15, 2010 10:17:23 GMT -5 jblovessharks said:

Oh and here's a question! when Nicki burst in on Toby and CL in the motel room, JJ was right behind and he yelled osmething like 'wait nicki its not what you think!' and she got very angry and yelled at him, not letting him explain

what do you think it was, if it wasn't what we think it was? i mean, he could have just said that to cover himself from her getting angry but why would he bother when we all know nicki and she would react how she did regardless of what he said?

maybe JJ didn't want CL sealed either?

im just throwing out ideas! sorry if im going too far into it but it was just such a bizarre few scenes, i can't help but think there's something hidden in there the writers are trying to warn us about!

I think JJ did want Caralynn sealed. Why else would he leave her alone with that man and why else would Caralynn be curled away from the man and crying? I think he only said it is not what you think because he did not want Nikki to take Caralynn away but Nikki saw through it and got her kid out of there.

[rissmeek]

I just asked in the sealing thread if anyone else felt that Wanda was supposed to be sealed to someone else. Glad to see that I'm not the only one.

The whole sequence of Wanda with her family creeped me out starting with her phone call to Nikki. JJ saying to her "Are you ready baby girl?" while nuzzling her. ICK!!

[spiritualtramp]

I read that Selma and Hollis were based off of the LeBarons which could explain JJ and Wanda's lineage too. And now with their resurfacing, it's possible some truths about that connection will come forth. As if that family could get any creepier...!