What is going to happen with Caralyn & Nikki now?

[BigLoveRocks!]

Now that Nikki is aware that JJ was trying to marry off Caralyn...I wonder how she will protect her form JJ now?

What do you guys think JJ is going to do to retaliate?

[BetseyD]

I would think that Nikki could somehow threaten J.J. with some kind of legal action - i.e., threaten to expose the whole sordid affair that took place at the motel.

I don't know, but if I were Nikki - I would not let that kid out of my site for a very, very long time!

[jblovessharks]

im just hoping that CL now understands Nicki when the woman says she wants what's best for her (in not becoming her) and will stop trying to fight her. Legally I think JJ is stuck because if he tries to take CL away from nicki or pulls another stunt, she could always call the authorities about his leaving Kansas. Which is most certainly why all of this was to be done in secret, cause once CL had been sealed, it wouldn't have mattered.

Anyone else think Alby told nicki about where it was going on because he wanted her there to cause a scene/stop the sealing? whether it be JJ and Adaleens or CL and that creepy mans?

And now im wondeirng if Alby chose the location? or if JJ did? i mean there were a bunch of sealings going on so could be alby... in which case that is just wrong brother!

[marigoldmama]

I didn't think of that. Alby did sort of tip off Nicki, didn't he?

I hope Caralynn sticks with Nicki.

Nicki is certainly not a perfect person and even she sees how damaged she is but she is a ton better than JJ and that whole mess and that Toby guy she was going to be sealed to?

Maybe Caralynn will be the Elisa Wall?

Maybe Caralynn and a custody battle explodes Bill's campaign?

[southernsong]

Problem is, Nikki can't threaten too much in the form of legal action. Polygamy is still illegal. If J.J. tells people that she is living in polygamy, it won't take long for the authorities to prove it. This could easily result in Cara Lynn not being able to live with Nikki or J.J.



You know, I do hope that Alby was trying to tip Nikki off. I love it when those two are in cahoots. Quite the unholy union...

[arosieworld]

Nikki doesn't realize it but she always has a way out of her marriage if she takes CL with her. SHe was Roman Daughter and she was sealed at 14 with a baby at 15 the New DA (whoever replaced ray) would put her in witness protection in a heart beat. Plus like bill said polygamy is a misdemeanor so she defiantly holds more cards than JJ

[jblovessharks]

seeing as nicki isn't a poster child anymore for JC, i think if it came to it, she'd def. testify against it/JJ in order to get custody of CL. I mean, realistically, the courts woudl be taking the girl from an active and incredibly unhealthy poly family and placing her into one that might be active but isn't... well... perverted to say the least

or this could be what makes nicki leave bill? like, she can only get custody of CL if she leaves the poly marriage and therefor isn't doing anything illegal? i think she would do it too. she abandoned her daughter once, i dont think she'd let it happen again!

[miceelf]

Very cool observation -- I think it's a very good possibility that Alby DID tip Nicki off on purpose. Here's the thing:

Alby first denied his homosexuality to Nicki on the phone, but the admitted it when she told him Lura knew and was the one who was telling everyone. Even though Nicki does not approve of homosexuality (the way she was raised on JC, but even if she had been mainstream LDS, we saw how the LDS church leaders were with Dale). Even so, she was more accepting of Alby than anyone else could have been -- she said, "I love you no matter what", and she tried to get him to see how damaged they both were by their upbringing.

(Note: I am not saying in anyway that Alby's homosexuality means he is "damaged" -- Alby is damaged because he tries to blow people up, and puts snakes in their beds, and forces his mother to marry his sister's crazy, evil, ex-husband).

Alby was consumed with self hatred about his gayness (all of those hallucinations of Roman berating him) and in total denial about his sexual orientation ("I'm not gay, we were just fooling around"). But then in his conversation with Nicki, he confessed all, that he was in love with Dale and Dale touched his heart, was his destiny.

Then RIGHT AFTER THAT, when Lura came in the room as if to say "c'mon, let's get going", Alby switched back to the evil, plotting prophet and told Nicki exactly where they were going to do the sealing. He knew it would send Nicki over the edge, and he knew she would know exactly where that horrible hotel was, because it's where she was forced to marry JJ, and lost her own innocence. He knew Nicki would come charging in to rescue her daughter.

Alby is no friend of JJ -- I think Adaleen mentioned that Caralyn's sealing to Toby (was that his name?) was arranged by Roman before his death. Even if it was just to undermine an agreement Roman had made, Alby probably was glad that Nicki came and got Caralyn.

I hope to hell that Caralyn now sees what a monster her father is, what he almost condemned her to, and wants nothing more to do with him. Probably not, though -- Nicki still sought Roman's approval for years and years...

[jblovessharks]

i wonder if alby also was hoping nicki would try and sabatoge adaleen/jj's sealing? i mean, he agreed to let JJ marry his mom because it was for show that he wasn't being emotional or taking sides or whatever... but inside he doesn't/didn't want it to go through and knew that if he tipped nicki to where it was happening, she'd stop it? im sure she would have tried harder if she wasn't then forced to focus on CL

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[cynicaljinx]

Feb 15, 2010 11:26:19 GMT -5 jblovessharks said:

i wonder if alby also was hoping nicki would try and sabatoge adaleen/jj's sealing? i mean, he agreed to let JJ marry his mom because it was for show that he wasn't being emotional or taking sides or whatever... but inside he doesn't/didn't want it to go through and knew that if he tipped nicki to where it was happening, she'd stop it? im sure she would have tried harder if she wasn't then forced to focus on CL

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I don't think Alby wanted his mother's sealing to be sabatoged - I'm thinking that Alby had a heart to heart talk with Adaleen letting her know that this sealing to JJ was just a political ploy to retain power in Juniper Creek. That would kind of explain Adaleen's attitude adjustment. Adaleen was always the power behind the man, she will get rid of the JJ problem for him, then move back into the big house and run it like she did with Roman.

Alby hoped Nikki would stop CaraLynn from being sealed to that toad Tobie (yuck). I think the emphasis will now shift to the power play between JJ and Alby, with Alby and Adaleen the ultimate winners.

[biglovegirl]

Poor Caralyn. Hopefully this will open her eyes. I def. think Nikki will fight for full custody now. I don't see her letting JJ have any visitations.

[dsc6]

Well, it is possible that Alby gave that bone to Nikki for supporting him in his time of need and saying that she would love him no matter what. I think the one thing that would turn Nikki on Alby irrevocably is if he sealed CL that day to Toby. He needed a way out of having to seal CL. And JJ obviously did want to get CL sealed and probably kidnapped away, and then DID NOT want Nikki to know that, thus his frantic lie/denial. Having Nikki find out, especially before the sealing, has caused JJ to lose CL. CL is lost to him, and he seems to have alot invested in her being around to be involved in his perverted pure bloodline belief system.

The fact that Adalene did not tell Nikki what was going to happen with CL is going to finish off the relationship between Nikki and her mother. And I hope that Wanda can regain her sanity. Those parents of hers are horrible. I'm sure her parents sexually abused Wanda and JJ, I'm sure they encouraged JJ to have sex with Wanda (they may even have been married in Kansas), I'm sure that Wanda's first child was by JJ. I'm sure that JJ wanted to recreate some version of his childhood experiences with CL.

Regarding Adalene, Adalene is an adult who is consenting to her marriage, so there is no way Nikki could intervene in that.

God bless Alby for allowing Nikki to save her daughter. She will always be grateful to him for that.

I detest JJ's first wife. She is bitter and hateful. When she and JJ are together, it gives me the creeps.

[Nickifan]

Feb 15, 2010 11:26:19 GMT -5 jblovessharks said:

i wonder if alby also was hoping nicki would try and sabatoge adaleen/jj's sealing? i mean, he agreed to let JJ marry his mom because it was for show that he wasn't being emotional or taking sides or whatever... but inside he doesn't/didn't want it to go through and knew that if he tipped nicki to where it was happening, she'd stop it? im sure she would have tried harder if she wasn't then forced to focus on CL

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I think Alby's approval of sealing his mother to JJ was nothing more than "the next best thing" to blowing her up - which is what he tried to do last season. She was thwarting his ambition to be Prophet of Juniper Creek. Adaleen supported Alby until she found out he and Lura were trying to hasten Roman's death.

[missym]

Maybe Nikki will threaten to report him to the authorities in Kansas since he's obviously AWOL there and all. There are two important things to keep in mind 1) JJ has sinister designs on Bill and 2) though Nikki saved Caralynn from sealing, Cl is no saint either. I can't forget the glint in her eye when she told JJ that she can't wait to go back to Kansas, even though she was leading Nikki to believe that she wanted to stay in the Henrickson household. Caralynn is conniving like both Nikki and JJ!

[BigLoveRocks!]

I don't think Caralyn realized just how evil her father really was until now. Now I think she understands Nikki a little more and finally sympathizes with her. Caralyn was horrified at that man Toby. That must be a common feeling for these young girls because they aren't told beforehand, it is sprung on them spur of the moment.

Remember Nikki going room to room... She opened a room and another young girl was in there crying just like Caralyn was. She was a young girl that was to be sealed too.

The only thing I think would have made that scene better is if Nikki brought the cops with her, or called them after realizing the young girls were being sealed too. That would have just been the icing on the cake.