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Post by kathy36610 on Mar 28, 2011 12:49:34 GMT -5
He probably killed Pam. A lot of men do that. There was an episode on Investigation and Discovery about the "Karaoke Killer", a businessman from Memphis whose business failed and he couldn't bring himself to admit it to his wife so he killed her in her sleep and then went on the lam.
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Post by withay on Mar 28, 2011 19:24:51 GMT -5
He probably killed Pam. A lot of men do that. There was an episode on Investigation and Discovery about the "Karaoke Killer", a businessman from Memphis whose business failed and he couldn't bring himself to admit it to his wife so he killed her in her sleep and then went on the lam. I thought that Pam had left him. In the scene where Margene gives Pam some money and tells her that she is getting out of Goji, Pam says that they are breaking up. That is not too long after Christmas and there is still snow on the ground. The last episode is set right before and on Easter so several months have passed. I felt like Pam would have left by then. She would not have had the money to keep the house so she likely would have moved in with relatives or friends. Again, that is how it worked out in my version of the end! ;D
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Mar 28, 2011 23:53:48 GMT -5
It would have been better if Carl had been the one to go ape shit at the capitol instead of Alby... Pumping round after round with a machine gun into everyone there... Then ran to the compound to hide out and became Alby's lover or "Alby-ite" to avoid prosecution and Bill would have run them down while in the house with a bulldozer and taken over as prophet of Juniper Creek.
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 29, 2011 8:08:10 GMT -5
He probably killed Pam. A lot of men do that. There was an episode on Investigation and Discovery about the "Karaoke Killer", a businessman from Memphis whose business failed and he couldn't bring himself to admit it to his wife so he killed her in her sleep and then went on the lam. I thought that Pam had left him. In the scene where Margene gives Pam some money and tells her that she is getting out of Goji, Pam says that they are breaking up. That is not too long after Christmas and there is still snow on the ground. The last episode is set right before and on Easter so several months have passed. I felt like Pam would have left by then. She would not have had the money to keep the house so she likely would have moved in with relatives or friends. Again, that is how it worked out in my version of the end! ;D It's wonderful how we have so many creative ideas! withay - you have a genius for keeping us on track with facts that the show has laid out for us. Although, it could be that if Pam had no relatives to go to, she and Carl were living in the house because neither of them could afford to go anywhere else. In today's economy lot's of people are still living the the same house because they can't afford to go anywhere else and they know it will be months or years before they actually have to leave a house, even if they're not making the mortgage payments anymore. If Pam was still in the house and they were living separate lives, that could be what sent Carl over the edge -- a daily reminder of his failure as a husband and man. INHO, the great tragedy of Pam and Carl was the damage done to Carl by the outrageous demands of paternalism. As far as we know, Carl did nothing wrong. He was a victim of a bad economy, perhaps some random medical problem (either his or hers), and a belief system that did not allow him dignity if he reached out for help.
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Post by withay on Mar 29, 2011 15:57:49 GMT -5
Writerwannabe said: "INHO, the great tragedy of Pam and Carl was the damage done to Carl by the outrageous demands of paternalism. As far as we know, Carl did nothing wrong. He was a victim of a bad economy, perhaps some random medical problem (either his or hers), and a belief system that did not allow him dignity if he reached out for help. "
That's one of the things that did not ring true for me. In my work, I had run into Mormon families going through tough economic times and their church had always been very supportive of them. LDS has their own aid system set up that families are supposed to contribute to in good times (through their tithes) that can be called upon in tough times. I have seen the LDS church pay mortgages and utilities for months for their members. Sometimes the family will volunteer to work to offset the aid they receive. I'm surprised none of our LDS members have not spoken up?
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Post by duets on Mar 29, 2011 18:08:33 GMT -5
That's one of the things that did not ring true for me. In my work, I had run into Mormon families going through tough economic times and their church had always been very supportive of them. LDS has their own aid system set up that families are supposed to contribute to in good times (through their tithes) that can be called upon in tough times. I have seen the LDS church pay mortgages and utilities for months for their members. Sometimes the family will volunteer to work to offset the aid they receive. I'm surprised none of our LDS members have not spoken up? Excellent point Withay, I too have seen the LDS Member funds help families who are down on their luck during hard times w/(mortgages & utilities etc). Odd that no one has mentioned it.
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 29, 2011 18:27:53 GMT -5
Writerwannabe said: "INHO, the great tragedy of Pam and Carl was the damage done to Carl by the outrageous demands of paternalism. As far as we know, Carl did nothing wrong. He was a victim of a bad economy, perhaps some random medical problem (either his or hers), and a belief system that did not allow him dignity if he reached out for help. " That's one of the things that did not ring true for me. In my work, I had run into Mormon families going through tough economic times and their church had always been very supportive of them. LDS has their own aid system set up that families are supposed to contribute to in good times (through their tithes) that can be called upon in tough times. I have seen the LDS church pay mortgages and utilities for months for their members. Sometimes the family will volunteer to work to offset the aid they receive. I'm surprised none of our LDS members have not spoken up? I"m so glad to hear this. I wondered if the portrayal of Carl's situation was accurate in terms of what the LDS church actually does when members fall on hard economic times. In the Big Love world, Carl was a victim of overblown expectations. I hope that in the real world he would have received understanding and help and not been shamed for a situation not of his making.
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