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Post by corajack on Mar 23, 2011 17:49:17 GMT -5
Ok so we know Bill had life insurance--but enough to keep all 3 houses and all of the kids? Barb might be working and using her degree, but she's not getting paid to be a bishop. Nicki can't move since she's saddled with kids 24/7. Margie is volunteering and spending money of her own with her trips. With Home Plus gone and them being really in the red (Don did make it sound totally serious) some of that money had to come from Bill's estate. His creditors had to be paid back. Am I right or wrong? Do you think that Don had to make payments back too? They were partners. Or when a business goes under does it just claim bankrupcy and then no one owes anything??? Also--what do you think Don is doing for a living? Ok so we have Bill's life insurance, and we know that Bill set up a trust for all of the kids. Unless I missed it he never did say just how much he put in there every week/month, etc. And besides that Bill has no assets except for the houses and cars. (I assume everything with the casino is gone). What ARE they living on?  ? It may be Big Love but it's certainly not big money anymore. |
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Post by duets on Mar 23, 2011 18:52:43 GMT -5
What ARE they living on? ? It may be Big Love but it's certainly not big money anymore. Great point, I dunno. But they certainly are on a tighter budget than before. Hopefully, things will be OK for them all. Between Barb, Margene, Ben & Heather, I don't think the financial livelihood of the family will go down the tubes. Heck, Frank still has all that money, maybe he can make a contribution from time to time,  |
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Post by corajack on Mar 23, 2011 19:54:34 GMT -5
Good point, duets.... I just have to mention that on some other boards I have visited people think (a lot of them maybe 50% or more) that Frank killed himself too. If so, all of that money is gone. Didn't he end up burying it?
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 23, 2011 20:16:41 GMT -5
I'm guessing Home Plus is A-OK. Only a few days passed between Bill announcing the loans had been called in and when he was killed. I'm assuming along with life insurance and trusts for his family, he also had insurance on all of his loans. That would have paid off the loans for the business and the mortgages on the house.
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Post by Smoke on the Water on Mar 23, 2011 20:24:42 GMT -5
I think Home Plus stays in business. With Bill's death the company cashes in his insurance policy (common business practice). With that money the store can pay back and restructure its debts. The Mormon Church ends its boycott, returning sales to normal. With Alby gone and Barb's church growing in Juniper Creek, the UEB cuts a better deal with Home Plus on rent.
Each of the wives inherits part of Bill's shares in Home Plus, giving them an income stream, access to benefits, and a controlling interest in the company. I'd also see Don Embry move up to CEO (although it would be hard to see him in the "Cowboy" commercial).
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Post by aliensummer on Mar 23, 2011 20:31:00 GMT -5
Great point, I dunno. But they certainly are on a tighter budget than before. Hopefully, things will be OK for them all. Between Barb, Margene, Ben & Heather, I don't think the financial livelihood of the family will go down the tubes. Heck, Frank still has all that money, maybe he can make a contribution from time to time, Maybe Barb and Ben are able to help out financially, but I doubt Margene or Heather have much to add at this point. Margene is most likely spending far more money than she's bringing in considering the fact that she's spending so much time volunteering abroad, which means she's paying to work (and trust me, it can cost a fair amount of money to do that stuff). Heather, at the eleven month mark, would still be in school. So if Heather is making money, it's probably going towards tuition, books, and all that fun stuff, and is from a part-time job. And Frank didn't care about the family before Bill's death, and I highly doubt he cares after! He's in it for Frank, and unless they can give him something, he won't want anything to do with them. Besides, he might be in jail for Lois' death. Even if he didn't inject her, lots of states have laws against assisted suicide. Edit: One thing that hasn't been brought up but is a possibility is that they sold Margene's house. With her always away on trips, and Barb's children all moved out, it would make sense for them to sell her house and have them all moved into Barb's place. |
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Post by duets on Mar 23, 2011 22:26:25 GMT -5
Good point, duets.... I just have to mention that on some other boards I have visited people think (a lot of them maybe 50% or more) that Frank killed himself too. If so, all of that money is gone. Didn't he end up burying it? Thanks corajack, over on the HBO boards the writers very clearly state that Frank did Lois, but NOT himself [paraphrasing]. Which leads me to think Frank would rather die before sharing or giving any money to anyone, even his own son's family. I think he lives under the false pretense that he can take it w/him when he goes, LOL. I'm sure he has his money hid in a safe place, just as Lois use to do, |
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Post by duets on Mar 23, 2011 22:36:05 GMT -5
Maybe Barb and Ben are able to help out financially, but I doubt Margene or Heather have much to add at this point. Margene is most likely spending far more money than she's bringing in considering the fact that she's spending so much time volunteering abroad, which means she's paying to work (and trust me, it can cost a fair amount of money to do that stuff). Heather, at the eleven month mark, would still be in school. So if Heather is making money, it's probably going towards tuition, books, and all that fun stuff, and is from a part-time job. And Frank didn't care about the family before Bill's death, and I highly doubt he cares after! He's in it for Frank, and unless they can give him something, he won't want anything to do with them. Besides, he might be in jail for Lois' death. Even if he didn't inject her, lots of states have laws against assisted suicide. Edit: One thing that hasn't been brought up but is a possibility is that they sold Margene's house. With her always away on trips, and Barb's children all moved out, it would make sense for them to sell her house and have them all moved into Barb's place. All great points, aliensummer. I agree RE Margene not being able to contribute due to travel vs expense. Also w/Frank. Now that is an absolute possibility RE Margene's house. Either they could sell it or even rent it. Depending upon the needs of the family & the worthiness of keeping it. I don't think they'll be in the welfare lines anytime soon. This family is very creative, they'll make it work! |
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Post by withay on Mar 23, 2011 23:08:10 GMT -5
All of the children and the legal wife (because she has minor children) would also be eligible for Social Security payments which could add up to quite a bit with that many minor children.
I agree that because Bill died before HomePlus actually went under, the insurance that he would have had would have most likely saved the business. The casino business was still being worked out through the courts so they might have a settlement from them also. The life insurance and trusts set up for the children along with previously mentioned items should have kept them safe. And I imagine the church members would have also contributed if needed.
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Post by corajack on Mar 23, 2011 23:32:57 GMT -5
I guess we are going to have to all agreee to disagree on this subject too. Home Plus folded. Period. As far as the rest of the guesses on how they are getting money--it's a crap shoot. We will never know. And this is one more reason why I think HBO sucks.
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Mar 24, 2011 0:03:24 GMT -5
I wondered if maybe Home Plus survived after all... Though we never really found out what happened with the casino either.
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Post by withay on Mar 24, 2011 0:11:30 GMT -5
I wondered if maybe Home Plus survived after all... Though we never really found out what happened with the casino either. When they got their first dividend check from the casino after they were thrown out, Bill said somethiing about how he was suing them. And we all know how long a lawsuit, especially about business, takes. My assumption was that it was still in process but not at the top of Bill's important things to do list given everything that is going on in his life. |
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Post by girlygirl on Mar 24, 2011 6:20:15 GMT -5
I'm sure he has his money hid in a safe place, just as Lois use to do, Yes, instead of canned pease like Lois; Frank decided to hide all his loot in "Beans & Franks" cans. LOL!! |
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Post by girlygirl on Mar 24, 2011 6:20:53 GMT -5
"peas..." sorry mis-type in previous message.  |
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 24, 2011 7:43:44 GMT -5
In the very last scene after the women hug, the camera floats up over the houses and Margene's car is still in her driveway but there is no car in Nikki's driveway. Possibly they sold Nikki's car and house and Nikki moved into Margene's house. Only problem with that theory is that Nikki liked nice things and Margene's house was always in shambles, plus Margene wouldn't want to give up anything. She wanted to keep all her business money for herself and not contribute to the family, so I don't think she would give up her house.
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