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Post by nychic on Mar 21, 2011 16:36:01 GMT -5
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Post by firmbeliever on Mar 21, 2011 17:43:44 GMT -5
I took a look at Margene's first blog - and wow - eerie. www.margenes-blog.com/margenes-blog/month/march-2006?currentPage=7:-( Did you know Jane Goodall was only 23 the first time she went to Africa on an expedition? Do I need to get a move on or what?!? I was watching one of her movies the other day on TV and it was so sad. This one baby chimp named Roscoe was such a mama's boy. It stayed with its mother, Viki, like, for years after all his brothers and sisters grew up and did whatever chimps do when they grow up. Roscoe stayed and when Viki had another baby, Roscoe hated it. He would go crazy every time she fed the baby! He looked so mad. I was even scared of him. That baby grew up and Roscoe stayed and when Viki died, he was SOOO sad. I cried and I think he cried too. So did Lester, but that's because he has an ear infection and some weird diarrhea. (Why so green?) But the strangest part was, right when his mom died, like within a week, they found Roscoe dead too. It was so sad. I don't know how Jane Goodall could stand it.
It mentions her desire to see the world, the age of 23, and how she'd better get a move on and see the world. So, 11 months after Bill's death she is actually around 23, and does just that. And then the story about the son dying just after his mother - which unfolded with Lois dying, and then Bill dying directly after - prophetic. |
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Post by paleskinbeauty on Mar 22, 2011 11:44:58 GMT -5
Thats kinda creepy and cool all at the same time.
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Post by corajack on Mar 23, 2011 17:33:19 GMT -5
firmbeliever--do you think that the entire series was planned from that first show? I mean, I know they had an outline--but Margie saying that just seems too ironic considering what happened. Was it intentional foreshadowing that we didn't catch?
Not so sure about the light flickering....that was a bit hokey for me LOL.
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 23, 2011 17:42:27 GMT -5
firmbeliever--do you think that the entire series was planned from that first show? I mean, I know they had an outline--but Margie saying that just seems too ironic considering what happened. Was it intentional foreshadowing that we didn't catch? Not so sure about the light flickering....that was a bit hokey for me LOL. The writers have said they always knew the story they wanted to tell but I don't think that was intentional foreshadowing. Margene's age wasn't thought about until this year. |
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Post by paleskinbeauty on Mar 23, 2011 19:45:20 GMT -5
firmbeliever--do you think that the entire series was planned from that first show? I mean, I know they had an outline--but Margie saying that just seems too ironic considering what happened. Was it intentional foreshadowing that we didn't catch? Not so sure about the light flickering....that was a bit hokey for me LOL. The writers have said they always knew the story they wanted to tell but I don't think that was intentional foreshadowing. Margene's age wasn't thought about until this year. Although, watching the first episode of season one...its hard to NOT think they had the outline in place. way lots of fore shadowing. |
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Post by corajack on Mar 23, 2011 19:58:07 GMT -5
I think we will all have to agree to disagree here because I really do think there is a lot more foreshadowing that we realized. I don't have time to write it now. But I think the writers already had (especially) the end in mind when the series first started.
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Post by marigoldmama on Mar 23, 2011 20:03:14 GMT -5
I think they had 80% planned and added some things along the way like Margene's age, the whole drama with the real Warren Jeffs compound etc.
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 23, 2011 20:09:13 GMT -5
I think they had 80% planned and added some things along the way like Margene's age, the whole drama with the real Warren Jeffs compound etc. I agree but tossing Margene's age in this year IMO nulls and voids any foreshadowing as far as her age timeline that she wrote in her blog. |
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Post by corajack on Mar 23, 2011 23:40:47 GMT -5
rissmeek--I don't understand. Margie said that in season 1 and she knew how old she was. How could what she said be null and void?
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 24, 2011 10:38:57 GMT -5
rissmeek--I don't understand. Margie said that in season 1 and she knew how old she was. How could what she said be null and void? But Margene didn't know how old she was in season one. In season one she was 20 something. It wasn't until this season that the writers changed their mind and decided to make Margene 16 when she joined the family. |
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Post by corajack on Mar 25, 2011 0:33:11 GMT -5
rissmeek--Margie admitted that she lied and had her mother lie about her being older; and that she was only 16 when she was married. How could she not know her age? I'm confused.
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 25, 2011 9:42:53 GMT -5
rissmeek--Margie admitted that she lied and had her mother lie about her being older; and that she was only 16 when she was married. How could she not know her age? I'm confused. Because the writers didn't know that Margene was only 16 until this year. It wasn't something that they had in their back pocket this whole time. It was something they thought up this season. So when the blog was written in the first season Marge was in her 20s already. |
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 25, 2011 10:17:10 GMT -5
rissmeek--Margie admitted that she lied and had her mother lie about her being older; and that she was only 16 when she was married. How could she not know her age? I'm confused. Because the writers didn't know that Margene was only 16 until this year. It wasn't something that they had in their back pocket this whole time. It was something they thought up this season. So when the blog was written in the first season Marge was in her 20s already. It's quite remarkable to look back at all the things that happened in the first four seasons and see how many can be explained by Marge's young age. Her lack of understanding that she was marrying all three of them, the flirtations with Benny and Ana, her behavior at the conference when Barb had to come in as Bill's public wife, her moping around her house, careless housekeeping, being overwhelmed by the children, lying to Pam about her husband being killed in the Gulf War, on and on. All understandable, given what we know now about her age. Amazing that they weren't writing all those early years knowing that she was a teen. |
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Post by firmbeliever on Mar 26, 2011 1:41:46 GMT -5
Just to answer the question specifically posed to me, I don't think the writers planned it from the beginning. I watched from the beginning, obsessively, and feel the 16 thing was a late edition to the plot. However, I think they did look back at margie's blog and it impacted her characters end greatly. Another very early post references lois' reaction to their first meeting - she thought margene was too young and disapproved of the marriage, that to me solidifies the thought that margenes ending was influenced by those early posts, but not originally conceived storylines.
I am a firm believer that Lois was a driving figure for the writers. Anything Lois said or did throughout the series is huge in the big picture of the big love story. Lois disapproving from the start says to me it is part of the end. Lois isn't always right, but the entire Hendrickson family is her life - and she was wise - and the matriarch trumps the patriarch in the end in both Sandy and Juniper Creek.
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