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Post by Dee on Mar 19, 2011 20:08:22 GMT -5
I found an absolutely fascinating report written by an LDS therapist (he has his PHD) on LDS women, depression, and anti-depressants. The more I read, the more I thought of Barb. home.teleport.com/~packham/prozac.htmIt's a bit long, but definitely worth a read. Very balanced. Tell me if you see Barb in some of the examples given.
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Post by firstwife on Mar 19, 2011 20:56:41 GMT -5
Wow. That article is fantastic.
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Post by Dee on Mar 19, 2011 21:21:14 GMT -5
Thanks, firstwife. I thought so too. I'm not LDS, but I've asked myself the same questions about the doctrine of my Southern Baptist church. You could easily go bonkers trying to figure it out, and non-Mormons don't have Joseph Smith and the BoM to worry about!
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 19, 2011 22:17:04 GMT -5
Thanks, firstwife. I thought so too. I'm not LDS, but I've asked myself the same questions about the doctrine of my Southern Baptist church. You could easily go bonkers trying to figure it out, and non-Mormons don't have Joseph Smith and the BoM to worry about! I'm not Baptist but took a pre-marriage wife class at a Baptist church. At the end of the year long study I came to the conclusion there was no way I was going to be that kind of wife and be sane. It was going to be me sane or not the perfect wife.
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 19, 2011 22:23:03 GMT -5
@ Rissmeek. So I guess you chose sanity?
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 19, 2011 22:28:57 GMT -5
@ Rissmeek. So I guess you chose sanity? Oh yeah I chose sanity, well as much sanity as I had prior to marriage anyway.
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Post by Dee on Mar 20, 2011 7:29:23 GMT -5
I live in the Bible Belt and believe it or not, Baptists aren't considered that hardcore here. It's the Fundamentalist/Pentecostal type churches that are considered strict. Hubby and I didn't have any premarital counseling except a chat with the pastor. And thank goodness, equality has never been an issue with us. It's a partnership, pure and simple. We've been married nearly 41 years.
We do see lots of women who look a lot like compound women here. Long hair, dresses, no makeup, etc. But they're all Pentecostal. They don't live like compound women though.
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Post by withay on Mar 20, 2011 9:51:33 GMT -5
I live in the Bible Belt and believe it or not, Baptists aren't considered that hardcore here. It's the Fundamentalist/Pentecostal type churches that are considered strict. Hubby and I didn't have any premarital counseling except a chat with the pastor. And thank goodness, equality has never been an issue with us. It's a partnership, pure and simple. We've been married nearly 41 years. We do see lots of women who look a lot like compound women here. Long hair, dresses, no makeup, etc. But they're all Pentecostal. They don't live like compound women though. I live in the Deep South also and I agree. There also are a lot of pentecostal churches that call themselves "Baptist" but are not associated with the Southern Baptist Convention.
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 20, 2011 10:29:47 GMT -5
I live in the Bible Belt and believe it or not, Baptists aren't considered that hardcore here. It's the Fundamentalist/Pentecostal type churches that are considered strict. Hubby and I didn't have any premarital counseling except a chat with the pastor. And thank goodness, equality has never been an issue with us. It's a partnership, pure and simple. We've been married nearly 41 years. We do see lots of women who look a lot like compound women here. Long hair, dresses, no makeup, etc. But they're all Pentecostal. They don't live like compound women though. Dee that's the counseling that my hubs and I had. About an hour long chat with my pastor. He said equality would lead to a happy marriage and not one where I bust my butt all day and night in the home and at work. www.middletownbiblechurch.org/homefam/prov31.htmThat's a mini overview of the study I took.
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Post by Dee on Mar 20, 2011 10:29:55 GMT -5
I so agree. For us and our church, the most controversial thing that's going on is whether or not Calvinism is the right doctrine. But that's another story.... One of my very best friends is Assembly of God, a Pentecostal-like denomination. They are MUCH more fundamentalist than Southern Baptists. She doesn't wear pants ever, reads only Southern fiction, doesn't listen to secular music, etc. For me, that's a lifestyle I couldn't maintain, but if that's what she believes God wants her to do, who am I to argue? I feel somewhat that way about the Henricksons. I don't agree with polygamy, but each person has to do what he/she believes is right. And except for Barb, I think the whole Henrickson clan is on the polygamy bandwagon. That's their business with God, no business of mine. If they were real, that is. But they're not. ;D
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 20, 2011 10:38:49 GMT -5
So interesting Dee about the difference between Assembly of God vs Baptist in your area. The local Baptist church is an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist church, I think that's what they call themselves. They are much like what you describe your Assembly of God church. The young girls wear coolots during the summer instead of shorts or capris. God forbid if you are a female and walk into church in slacks. But the Assembly of God church is much more lax. They allow you to come as you are to church, that means if you are comfortable in a pair of blue jeans well that's fine come on over.
I don't go to either church, I have gone to both though in the past. I have chosen to go non-denominational.
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Post by Dee on Mar 20, 2011 10:48:25 GMT -5
rissmeek, that is very interesting! I didn't realize there were regional differences between denominations. I just assumed that AofG had their doctrine, Baptists had theirs, etc.
I've come to think I'm maybe Methodist at heart. Or whatever you call the belief that there are different paths to God.
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 20, 2011 11:04:09 GMT -5
rissmeek, that is very interesting! I didn't realize there were regional differences between denominations. I just assumed that AofG had their doctrine, Baptists had theirs, etc. I've come to think I'm maybe Methodist at heart. Or whatever you call the belief that there are different paths to God. I didn't know there was regional differences either!! I always thought the Baptist were the extreme rigid group, the Pentecostal the loud dancing group, and the Methodist just happy you are here. I was raised Methodist, very open and liberal. My mother though drug me to every church in our area so that I was exposed to many different denominations. The one that I didn't like then was the non-denominational one. It was loud and they had speakers in the bathroom. Now I enjoy the music and I just don't go to the bathroom. lol
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Post by bigluvjunkie on Mar 20, 2011 13:14:27 GMT -5
Labels like Methodist or Baptist won't tell you very much. There are plenty of liberal Baptist and conservative Methodist churches out there. Penecostal and evangelical are similarly imprecise terms--by themselves they don't tell you what kind of church it is. The thing that matters is what the doctrine and regional authority for the particular church happens to be.
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Post by Dee on Mar 20, 2011 13:27:44 GMT -5
It's hard to find anything liberal in the Deep South, biglovejunkie! I would think in my area, Methodists are the most liberal, mostly because they are, as rismeek mentioned, just happy you're there. LOL Back to the LDS/FLDS topic, though, I've personally never been to a church that demands quite so much from their members. I can certainly see how LDS women become depressed...they are not considered "whole" in and of themselves. They have to be attached to a man and will never be equal to that man or any other man. I'm way too outspoken to be a successful Mormon, mainstream or fundamentalist.
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