She loved sex...now she's uptight

[hollylooya]

In season one, Nikki LOVED sex. Now she's a prude and uptight. What gives? Is it all about now getting pregnant? Thanks.

[hollylooya]

Sorry...I meant, is it now about NOT getting pregnant.

[southernsong]

I think that a big part of the change is from her not really wanting Bill. Before, she had sex because she was the dutiful wife and, in her eyes, it did give her a sense of power. In previous seasons, she really wasn't the adventurous type, though. For example, she was appalled that Margene was willing to let Bill go down on her. She thought that was vulgar. When Bill tried on Nikki, she freaked out and told him that she wanted it how they always do it - face to face. I don't think she has any interest in getting pregnant now, either.

[sheridan1]

I think she is in love with the other guy and can't force herself to have sex with Bill

[kambria]

Nikki does not seem to be very sexually enlightened. She did not even know about oral sex until she saw Bill do it to Margene. I remember her discussing watch she saw with Margene and saying something to the effect of "Margene, how could you emasculate Bill like that?...What were you doing to him?..."

Also Nikki does not seem to be sexually attracted to Bill anymore. Ever since Ray came in to the picture Nikki has been questioning her devotion to Bill and the polygamist lifestyle in general (remember last season when she asked to be taken off of the wives' schedule?).

[BigLoveRocks!]

Welcome to the board Hollylooya and Sheridan1!

I do think since Nikki discovered what true love was with Ray, that she looks at Bill as just an obligation.

[lism]

I don't know if what Nikki has for Ray is true love or not but she has certainly become more interesting, and more sympathetic since she met him. I do remember she liked sex back in the day but wasn't sure if it was just me who thought that. She's never been a "sexual" character...that part is played by Margene, and very well.

[JJ77]

Yeah, to me Nicki was never very sexual. I actually think some of her seeming interest in sex was driven by the fact that Margene apparently did enjoy it , was more sexual than her, etc. and she wanted to make sure nobody was "one upping" her with bill.

I dont know if Ray was her "true love" either. Her time as "margene" was her first taste of what normal life (outside the principle / compound, etc) could have meant for her. She found it liberating to shed her skin (so to speak)... pretending to be someone else was the same as wearing a mask for her - it allowed her a freedom she'd never felt. I think Ray played a part in that, and i do think she had real feelings for him - but i think it was more about the "life" that got away than the "man" that did.

Now, after having a taste of being someone / something else she's basically questioning everything she previously beleived in - which includes (IMO) her marriage / feeings for Bill.
At the same time that she's questioning her beleifs , it seems she's reaching for somehting as well & at least for the moment i thnk she's trying to make things work with bill. If she can make that feel right it would be the easiest path for her. The alternative means an entire life change. make sense?

[BigLoveRocks!]

I remember last season Nikki and Bill playing "Go Fish" at the table and Bill asking her if she would like to have sex with him...Nikki replied "No...I do not wish to have sex with you."

She was clearly annoyed with Bill even then.

I also agree her life in the real world was a wake up call as to what she had been missing. Margene in my opinion, was a bit cruel to take that away from her by blackmail. Of course she wouldn't be able to use her real name in the real world, whether she was working for the DA or a grocery store. People would humiliate her.

I also think Margene has gotten some joy out of making it known to Nikki that Bill needs viagra (and insinuating just for Nikki) and this season that she's "been picking up the slack" for Nikki.

I like Margene but she has gotten real catty with Nikki since last season. Then Margie and Barb talking about how Nikki and Bill weren't having sex was clearly humiliating for her.

I think all of it has just turned Nikki off to Bill. I almost think her bringing Caralyn to DC with them was an attempt to avoid intimacy with Bill.

[ladykc]

Poor Nicki probably grew up being told that good girls don't like sex and don't try to be sexy, even for their husbands.

Also, she was essentially raped as a teenager when she was forced into marriage. Not a great introduction to the world of sex. (There's also the possibility that even before that, she was sexually abused - there was a little hint of an incestuous relationship with Roman a few seasons ago.)

Nicki can't come into her own sexually until she works through all of her emotional issues. Which is going to take a long time.

[marigoldmama]

;D

I'm so happy to post!

I think Nicki wasn't very sexual to begin with but it all came to a complete halt when Bill started using viagra.

Remember the scene where Margene announced that Bill takes viagra and Nicki immediately assumes it is for her and Margene didn't quite sound convincing when she assured Nicki it wasn't for any one of them.

[BigLoveRocks!]

Make yourself at home marigoldmama! Post as much as you want!

I agree about Nikki... The viagra thing turned it for her in a bad way. You are right, Margene all but insinuated it was only for Nikki... She has been very catty about sex with Bill since last season for some reason.

Don't get me wrong...I do like margie...But she seems a little quick to get Nikki's goat these days.

[rissmeek]

Nikki did a lot of goating of Margene in the past. I think this is just Margie's way of letting Nikki know she isn't superior to her.

[crissie198334]

Remember those clips with Nikki talking to Barb about having baby after baby for the family? She was in the hopsital crying after her son was born. She just doesnt want to be treated like a dog at a puppy mill and I feel bad for her. And I think that is what has marge losing her mind too.

[kimbie]

Jan 30, 2010 1:48:20 GMT -5 lism said:

I don't know if what Nikki has for Ray is true love or not but she has certainly become more interesting, and more sympathetic since she met him. I do remember she liked sex back in the day but wasn't sure if it was just me who thought that. She's never been a "sexual" character...that part is played by Margene, and very well.

I agree & I also think that Barb & Bill have an intense sexual relationship. Remember the secret affair they were having a few seasons ago? Nikki seems to be the only one out of the loop, I think.