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Post by kambria on Jan 28, 2010 14:30:20 GMT -5
I must say that I am very proud of Margene's progress this season (in spite of the whole kissing Ben situation). She really seems to be coming into her own. I wanted to bring up the conversation that she had with Bill in the car. According to Bill, all wives must place any separate earnings that they make into a "Common Pot" to put towards family expenses. Instead of conceding to Bill's commands like she used to, Margene recommended getting accountants or lawyers involved. Go Margene!!!
This point made me think back to last season when Bill told Ana that all of her earnings would go in to the "Common Pot". Bill seemed bothered by Ana's reaction, so I figured he would be even more bothered by Margene's avoidance of the subject. What are your thoughts?
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Post by southernsong on Jan 28, 2010 16:40:13 GMT -5
The whole "common pot" thing fascinates me. In the first season, Barb didn't want to sign her check over to Bill. She had her own bank account. She did finally sign it over to him, but it did cause a rift. Anna didn't want to give her tips to the family. Now Margene doesn't want to hand over her money. They way I am understanding it, people are just fine with the common pot.... as long as they can take from it. Once it comes time to pay into it, they are opposed to it.
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Post by JJ77 on Jan 28, 2010 17:48:18 GMT -5
Good point southernsong - heck, i might be ok with a "common pot" if all i had to do was take from it LOL
It has been a point of conflict int he past with Barb and then Anna, but I think it's going to be an even bigger issue with Margene... since her contribution will be so large in comparison with barb's "substitute techer" or anna's "waitress" tips.
Aside form the actual money part of it though - I think it's going to be an issue for margene more relative to her independence than her income. This is the first time she has asserted herself as an independent woman, or even done anything (as far as i can tell) completely on her own.
The fact that she hasnt been getting support from Bill, or her sister wives and has still managed to make a success of her business makes it all the more hers & I thin is where the real issue is going to come in.
They've shown little to no encouragement, moral support, or help in her making a go of the bracelet thing. And then they're gonna say.. (essentially) " Ok, well since it worked out - hand over your money, your success is our success".
I just dont see that flying.
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Post by kambria on Jan 28, 2010 18:20:07 GMT -5
Well said JJ77! Margene has been working on her business all by her self. And in her biggest moment, Ben was the only one who came to support her! No wonder she kissed him! lol (yes, it is still wrong, wrong, wrong on her part, though!)
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Jan 28, 2010 20:05:13 GMT -5
My question is this... Is Bill's income going into the common pot too? I recall last season Barb having NO IDEA how much Home Plus was earning and going to Don to find out they were pretty much in the hole. So if Bill's money is going into the common pot...Why would Barb have to go to Don like that?
I was also proud of Margene for handling the situation the way that she did, suggesting lawyers and money managers.
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Post by JJ77 on Jan 28, 2010 20:40:39 GMT -5
I think the "common pot", while contributed to by all, is run by Bill alone. They all pay into it, and then just trust Bill as the man / leader of the family to handle their finances from there. i think that's why barb had no idea where they were financially. He basically manages their finances to the point of giving them "allowances". or atleast thats how it seemed to eb going down in the begining...
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Post by withay on Jan 29, 2010 0:56:22 GMT -5
I think Bill's reaction to Margene's admission of how much she was making was shock! As long as she was just making a little "pin money" it was okay for her to keep it. But now that he has realized that she is making serious money, he wants it to go in the common pot. And Margene has been generous with the money; she bought Nicki a microwave and gave her and Barb some cash.
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Post by kambria on Jan 29, 2010 1:31:27 GMT -5
I think Bill's reaction to Margene's admission of how much she was making was shock! As long as she was just making a little "pin money" it was okay for her to keep it. But now that he has realized that she is making serious money, he wants it to go in the common pot. And Margene has been generous with the money; she bought Nicki a microwave and gave her and Barb some cash. Yes you are right, Margene is being generous. But asking her to fork over all of her earnings just seems unfair to me. Especially since she is doing all of the work on her own and with little to no support from any of them.
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Post by duets on Jan 29, 2010 2:07:27 GMT -5
Suburban poly world is ran a lot differently than that of like JW compounds & the like. In the FLDS ran compounds the wives do have to give majority of their money to the common pot, if not all of it. Whereas, in Bill's version, the wives seem to be able to donate an specific amount. (Or so I've read.)
I loved the surprised look on Bill's face when Margene owned up to what her income had been for the month, priceless!
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Post by angel on Jan 29, 2010 14:31:25 GMT -5
Aside form the actual money part of it though - I think it's going to be an issue for margene more relative to her independence than her income. This is the first time she has asserted herself as an independent woman, or even done anything (as far as i can tell) completely on her own. Actually, pretty much everything Margene decides on money matters has to do with taking care of her kids. Her "vote" on going with the casino had to do with being able to give them a good life. She wants to provide for them in a way her mother was never able to provide for her. Kids are the be all and end all for her.
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Post by noromanholiday on Jan 29, 2010 16:54:12 GMT -5
I think that Bill is going to come up empty handed if he keeps pushing the Margie money button. A percentage should be split between the wives. It's actually proving to be a pretty good example of Socialism/Communism and how typical greed makes it impossible for that economic model to work smoothly.
Maybe the writers are getting political in light of what's going on in the world outside of Big Sandy.
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Post by JJ77 on Jan 29, 2010 21:22:01 GMT -5
I think margenes decision are most defnitely steered by the love of her children, but I don't think kids are the end all and be all for her. I think she's finding herself right now, and while being a better / more independent person may be motivated by her desire to eb the best she can for her children... she's also doign it for herself. she's taking some "me" time right now imo. I also dont thinkshe's lookingto add to her brood (right now) b/c of that fact.
I agree that if Bil keeps pushing the money button he'll end up empty handed. I also agree that he was completey shocked to find out how much her "little side business" (as i think he viewed it) is grossing. I think he underestimated Margene & that stepping in after the fact is going to cause friction.
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Post by duets on Jan 29, 2010 22:22:09 GMT -5
I agree that if Bil keeps pushing the money button he'll end up empty handed. I also agree that he was completey shocked to find out how much her "little side business" (as i think he viewed it) is grossing. I think he underestimated Margene & that stepping in after the fact is going to cause friction.
In the opening of this past wks epi, when they were talking about Bill becoming prophet, Margene stated that if he does, then her jewelry business will go kaput! Just like when her boss ask her to bring her family, no way could she have marched on the set with Bill & Nicki & Barb. It's probably a good thing that JoDeen wasn't able to attend. The crew would have certainly noticed her attire as odd.
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Post by JJ77 on Jan 30, 2010 5:21:54 GMT -5
If any (or all ) of them had actually made time to be there for her, she easily could have explained them as friends and / family. Jodean's attire would have drawn some looks for sure, but at that point i thnk it was mor einportan to margene just to have someon there for her.
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Post by rissmeek on Jan 30, 2010 18:53:02 GMT -5
If any (or all ) of them had actually made time to be there for her, she easily could have explained them as friends and / family. Jodean's attire would have drawn some looks for sure, but at that point i thnk it was mor einportan to margene just to have someon there for her. Yep they could have been explained very easily. "This is Barb & Bill. They are my neighbors who have been very supportive of my new career, watching the kids while I am at work and even bringing us dinner." Not really a lie either.
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