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Post by wurks on Mar 9, 2010 11:08:01 GMT -5
I just cannot understand how the writers could miss that point. The governor's wife knew about Barb Henrickson, the polygamist. It makes me CRAZY that the he won. I predicted from the very first that he would, simply because "outing" the alternate lifestyle is part of the politically correct social engineering. .. does art imitate life, or does life imitate art? Answer that correctly and become world famous. So.. it doesn't really matter that it can't or hasn't happened .. yet in the RW, the "agenda" if there is one is to legalize polygamy (and of course gay marriage also) This SL is why they have politics, (and Marylin) in the mix. I seriously doubt we have seen the last of her. She may even end up being an advocate for Bill... after he win's her over of course. lol
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Post by rhinestone_cowgirl on Mar 9, 2010 17:47:40 GMT -5
Hi
it seemed incredibly rushed even in comparison to the rest of the season; like they had written the storylines to fit over two episodes but ended up squashing them into one; from the interview I read with the creators posted on the 'big love in the news' bit of the forum it does seem like that was actually what happened, so yes this was very disappointing; there seemed to be no real depth to the characters or storylines at all.
Soph
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Post by mottob27 on Mar 9, 2010 18:07:58 GMT -5
Is it possible that Bill was "allowed" to be elected to support someone elses agenda? Now that there is a "living" example of polygamy in an everday neighborhood & as a business owner, the anti-polygamy people have someone to go after and blame. Maybe he was used as a pawn to get into Juniper Creek, the Kansas compound, and that new place Alby was attempting to buy.
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Post by aliensummer on Mar 9, 2010 21:08:28 GMT -5
I was really disappointed in the finale. There was so many storylines that were just rushed and would've been so much better if they had given them more time. Between the JJ stuff and Bill's election, they had more than enough material for a couple of episodes, and I really think they should've chosen one story over the other to focus on during the finale. Obviously it would've been annoying to have one or the other hanging till the next season, but at least they would've done it justice!
I really didn't like the way the whole JJ storyline was handled. It had SO much potential and was being built up for so long, and then just fell flat. You can't really cover the creepiness and bizarreness of what JJ was doing in less than an hour and do it justice. You just can't, in my opinion. And on top of that, Nicki just has the day from hell, and in a couple of hours she's all made up and looking pretty out in public? Also, Bill, who is concerned about how the inbreeding in Kansas will effect how people view polygamy, has just found out the cause and reason... but does nothing? I get that it would make him look bad, but it would've at least been nice to have seen him think about whether he should call the police or just leave, or even have Nicki make that decision for him. And, to top it all off, both him and Nicki leave Adaleen alone with JJ and Melinda! You'd think that at the very least they'd force her to get to a hospital and get checked out. But none of this is dealt with because they were too concerned with fitting in the end of the election.
I was just disappointed. I wanted more.
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Post by marionj2 on Mar 9, 2010 22:39:36 GMT -5
I remember the last season of Carnivale, HBO cut the season partway through, from 12 episodes to 8, and they had to gallop through the storyline to get it finished.
I think the same thing may have happened here. It seems that the last few episodes have moved WAY too fast, as if they were compressing, say, the last 6 episodes into 3.
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Post by JJ77 on Mar 9, 2010 22:53:16 GMT -5
They were ona deadline, running behind due to the illness of one of the writers, and then HBO gave them 9 eps to tell a story they had planned for 12.
There's a news article / interview citing all that somewhere over on the news board i beleive.
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Post by withay on Mar 10, 2010 3:47:28 GMT -5
They were ona dealine, running behind due to the illness of one of the writers, and then HBO gave them 9 eps to tell a story they had planned for 12. There's a news article / interview citing all that somewhere over on the news board i beleive. I read some thing similar. That the number of episodes was cut from what was planned due to a time issue. And while they did an admirable job making it fit, the cuts still showed.
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Post by JJ77 on Mar 10, 2010 19:24:03 GMT -5
I agree withay, the time restrainsts & cuts did show.
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Post by wurks on Mar 10, 2010 22:18:59 GMT -5
I agree withay, the time restrainsts & cuts did show. It's painfully obvious from how they short shriffted this series and their pos website that HBO has no clue which side their bread is buttered on. You have to wonder who is really paying the big $$ for their social engineering agenda. They obviously don't giveashit about the real paying customer or the fan base of the Big Love show.
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Post by JJ77 on Mar 11, 2010 0:19:42 GMT -5
Btw, read an article today (can't recall if it was one of those here or somewhere else, sorry) where the writers stood by the reality factor of Bill not getting outed before getting elected - citing it being a 4 week "special election" for a nominal political position in a state that is sort of off the political map. go figure Wurks- pos = point of sale? positively outstanding service? or piece of shit? LOL j/k
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Post by thatgirl on Mar 12, 2010 20:06:38 GMT -5
JJ, I think what bothered me most about Bill was his attitude. I'd never seen him so pig-headed and dictatorial. In the last few episodes he seemed to have shifted from being concerned and caring to dictatorial and demanding. The whole Mexico storyline was, IMO, a fiasco - it was out of nowhere and went nowhere. But in the final episode, he seemed so tunnel visioned (as someone pointed out); he expected everyone to just follow his instructions and shut up. I think there will be repercussions from his winning the election - he's put everyone and everything in jeopardy. Short-sighted and perhaps suicidal.
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Post by JJ77 on Mar 13, 2010 13:17:15 GMT -5
agree 100% thatgirl.
To me his tunnel vision caused the very thing he was suppose ot be doing it all for (family) to crumble around him.
As far as the Mexico fiasco - really the only thing I could see that came of it was showing (after all the self centered behavior) that when push came to shove Bill was wiling to give his life for his family. Sort of a redeeming factor amongst all the behavior that made us turn on him. I also think the conversations that went down - true feelings coming out - between frank and lois and bill and joey were important. I don't think the far fecthed mexico story was necessary to do all that. It's just the only point i could draw from any of it.
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Post by wurks on Mar 13, 2010 18:13:15 GMT -5
Btw, read an article today (can't recall if it was one of those here or somewhere else, sorry) where the writers stood by the reality factor of Bill not getting outed before getting elected - citing it being a 4 week "special election" for a nominal political position in a state that is sort of off the political map. go figure Wurks- pos = point of sale? positively outstanding service? or piece of shit? LOL j/k yes.. piece of ... sugar, or what ever is that stuff that hits the fan. I'll paraphrase somewhat but... I read an interview (La Times i think it was) with the writers and they said.. ya this season was kind of dark, but we decided a long time ago that "nothing is off limits" so "let's just do it".. The main objective this season was to get the family "outed". They said we wanted to do that sooner but the producers talked is out of it. It will get complicated for them, they said, because obviously the (Utah) public is not going to receive it well. (er sumpthin like that) They also said they wanted to concentrate more this next season (5) on the family dynamics. "we want this to be a family that works" Obviously things get compounded when you start adding members to the society.. that's true of any society though. But you are right JJ, they have always conglomerated the story line from several different (somewhat) historical happenings or perspectives. My personal beef with that has always been that "news stories" get treated like "history"... when in fact a damn lot of what gets in the news is what we call "unadulterated bullshit" lol
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Post by JJ77 on Mar 14, 2010 14:03:06 GMT -5
Myth has often become fact since we began recording our history.
When the legend becomes more well known than the actual facts, we just adopt the legend as fact.
This is true for a lot of peices of american history...
Add to that the changes in the way the news is covered now - every peice of fact being infused with opinion .... opinion often being reported as fact....
and well, there you have it. It's not just in regard to the FLDS / poly. It's pretty general if you ask me. Unfotunatey we dont geta lot of "straight forward" news coverage these days... and all must be takem with atleast a slight grain of salt. Either that or figure out which media outlets share you're opinion and just take it as fact LOL
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Post by zoar on Mar 14, 2010 16:52:31 GMT -5
There is one big problem here. Bill is under the assumption that polygamy is only a misdemeanor and not a felony. While his reasoning is correct the Constitution of the state of Utah says a person holding an elected office can be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors.
I would like to see how the writers are going to address this fact next season. Bill may not go to jail but he most certainly can be removed from office. Once again Bills plans have backfired and the family has been embarrassed in public. It was all for nothing. Remember in seasons past when the show depicted the family skating and then cracks appear in the ice. Now it shows them floating or falling…. They just fell through the ice.
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