|
Post by miceelf on Mar 8, 2010 1:09:49 GMT -5
Barb went around Bill's wishes and hired Marilyn. Bill didn't want her in the meeting and she breezed right by him and said, "too bad, I'm a partner in Weber gaming" or something to that effect. Barb can reinstate Jerry and Tommy too...if Tommy will listen to her and realize that she had nothing to do with Bill's hasty decision. Tommy should listen to her -- he seems to have a very clear picture of what a messed up marriage Barb is in, and that she often does not agree with Bill or with the way he handles things.
|
|
|
Post by roughwood on Mar 8, 2010 3:29:35 GMT -5
Tommy had no trouble outing Bill. He knew Barb was unhappy and they were growing close. Maybe he was trying to hasten the demise of her marriage so they could be together?
|
|
|
Post by writerwannabe on Mar 8, 2010 9:20:21 GMT -5
Bill is a pragmatist, that's all. His choice was between dumping Jerry and Tommy or having the casino closed down by authorities. There was no other choice for either his family or the tribe. The tribe would suffer if the casino closed, Tommy said so. Bill made a hard nosed business decision.
Barb doesn't have the business focus. What, exactly, did she mean by "we've got to help them." Help them what? It was a silly idea. Bill did the right thing.
|
|
|
Post by katilee on Mar 8, 2010 10:20:18 GMT -5
Rismeek,
Bill didn't KILL Roman...but ok, so what if they did...it would have ruined the opening of the casino, which would have hurt all of their interests. And even if they did, Bill would have talked his way out of it. He didn't do anything wrong. It wasn't his fault Alby dumped the body there. And as SOON AS the found it, he dealt with it. They KNEW their relatives were selling METH for a while, and they didn't DO ANYTHING!!!
I think if ANY of us had a business and found out our partners looked the other way while their relatives SOLD METH, we would hit the roof!!!
|
|
|
Post by marigoldmama on Mar 8, 2010 10:29:18 GMT -5
Bill did the right thing in the big scheme of things. It is just really too much how he expects everyone else to be so tolerant of him and all his baggage. I guess the word hypocrit comes to my mind. However, as someone pointed out, Bill did what was best for everyone...the casino, the people employed there, the Indian tribe and the Henricksons. If the casino was shut down, a lot of people would be hurt. Barb's idea was insane. Help? Uh, no. They know what they are doing. I did think Bill could've talked to Tommy and Jerry and see if something could've been worked out first between them. Maybe Bill did talk and try but it was useless? I still think Bill took this opportunity to cut the hot guy from Barb's life.
|
|
|
Post by katilee on Mar 8, 2010 11:49:36 GMT -5
MarigoldMama,
I agree with everything you are saying, except I'm just wondering...Do you really think Bill had any idea about Barb and Tommy's attraction? I, personally, think he is clueless, which has kinda been the problem lately. He sees Barb (and in some ways all the wives) as someone that just does his bidding. He probably forgets that she is an attriactive, capable person that needs male attention.
Here is a question...mabye I should look to see if this discussion has already started, but if Barb leaves, what happens with the kids? I thought they were all mothers to each other's kids, so does that mean Barb gets visitation with Nikki and Marge's kids?
|
|
|
Post by marigoldmama on Mar 8, 2010 12:26:04 GMT -5
I bet Bill had no clue that there was a little "thing" between them but seeing how JEALOUS Bill is, he'll cut out any man that is near his wife. Plus, Tommy is hot. We haven't really seen it come up but Bill might not like his wives around other men. It might be a little cultural throw back to Juniper Creek or just Bill being a jealous man. Good question about the kids and visitation.
|
|
|
Post by cynicaljinx on Mar 13, 2010 13:19:42 GMT -5
MarigoldMama, I agree with everything you are saying, except I'm just wondering...Do you really think Bill had any idea about Barb and Tommy's attraction? I, personally, think he is clueless, which has kinda been the problem lately. He sees Barb (and in some ways all the wives) as someone that just does his bidding. He probably forgets that she is an attriactive, capable person that needs male attention. Here is a question...mabye I should look to see if this discussion has already started, but if Barb leaves, what happens with the kids? I thought they were all mothers to each other's kids, so does that mean Barb gets visitation with Nikki and Marge's kids? Barb left once before (beginning 2nd season I believe) and her kids stayed at home. I have a feeling if she leaves again, her visitations will be at Bill's discretion. Remember what he did to Nikki when he was so mad he wanted to be unsealed? I believe he told her (after setting her up in an apartment) that she could have her boys on the weekends, but she could have dinner with them every nite with the rest of the family.
|
|
|
Post by JJ77 on Mar 13, 2010 14:22:18 GMT -5
Ok, lemme throw my 2 cents in on this This was not the impression that I got. Saying so makes it seem like they were condoning it, and i don't think that's the case.Granted, they were involved to the point of having knowledge of it, but i don't think they were turning a blind eye. I think they have been trying to take care of / deal with the problem on their own - rather than bring in the authorities. (Thus lying to the DEA, etc.) I'm not condoning their behavior, or saying they were dealing with it in the right way - but trying to keep family / community problems within the family / community is not too far off from the way things are dealt with at the compound , or even by Bill in relation to his family at the compound. Yet another way we have the pot calling the kettle black , imo. Neither the people at the reservation nor the people at JC seem to trust government, or the outside world. (With understandable reasons if you think about their past) It's part of the past bill's people and Jerry's share, remember? I'm not insinuating that Bill should have allowed them to continue to deal with it on their own once he had knowledge of it. Obviously that wasn't working out so well. Obviously something had to be done to nip this thing in the bud - to put an immediate stop to it. It seemed to me though that Bill basically just made a phone call and had them thrown out. This is where I think he erred. Every time one of Bill's skeleton's emerged Jerry and Tommy allowed Bill a chance to "make it go away". They sat down with him and said - "look we can't have this tied to the casino. what do you plan to do about it?" Bill owed them the same in return. At very least he owed them some face time. Even if their leaving the casino immediately was the only course of action that could be taken - they should have had a sit down and come up with a future game plan beyond that fact. Instead, the first time the tables were turned (the Flutes family causing trouble rather than Bills) he basically threw them under the bus. Additionally, I think Bill was still pissed that they ALL hired Densham against his wishes. With Barb's new independent attitude and having a "team" (so to speak, including the Flutes) all on one side of an issue with him on the other... I think he was a little threatened that he might lose control of the casino to a majority rule situation. I don't think he senses an attraction between Barb and Tommy, but i think he senses an allegiance of which he is not a part. I think that played a part in the way he handled the situation as well.
|
|
|
Post by writerwannabe on Mar 13, 2010 19:24:07 GMT -5
It's important to note that Bill went to the Tribal Council and asked to have Tommy and Jerry replaced by others at the casino. It's just Tommy and Jerry that are out, not the tribe. Bill acted to protect the tribe's interest as well as his own.
|
|