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Post by marigoldmama on Feb 15, 2010 12:42:44 GMT -5
We know Alby has his evil side. Lately, we've seen his more human, kind and lost soul side.
He saw what happened with Nicki and JJ. He certainly must know how much pain those sealing of young girls and older men cause.
Why does he keep doing it?
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Post by zooxstation on Feb 15, 2010 13:43:49 GMT -5
He was still keeping up a front as Prophet, and that's what the Prophet does, what their culture dictated. It was all he really knew.
If Dale and he truly had a chance to collaborate on the compound like they discussed a few episodes back, I think things could have been different. Maybe Dale would have swayed Alby to not do underage sealings. Also, I'm wondering if Alby was actually going to be the one to seal Cara Lynn and that creepy old guy...I was under the impression JJ and Adaleen had already been sealed and Alby was nowhere to be seen when Nicki showed up and saved Cara Lynn.
And another question I had was where the hell was Joey when Wanda and JJ's crazy parents showed up?
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Post by biglovegirl on Feb 15, 2010 13:45:50 GMT -5
I think his authority would have been questioned if he wouldn't have kept on sealing people. He had to to keep up the image.
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Post by marigoldmama on Feb 15, 2010 19:52:57 GMT -5
I guess. It's just hard to understand how someone can inflict that on young girls.
I guess it is part of their culture and all they know. To us, it seems abusive.
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Post by rissmeek on Feb 15, 2010 19:57:15 GMT -5
Did anyone else get the feeling that Wanda was going to be resealed?
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Post by zooxstation on Feb 15, 2010 20:00:36 GMT -5
If Alby had just come out of the blue and said "Screw it, I'm not doing this," the sugar would have hit the fan at the compound and his authority would have been severely compromised at a time when he was still keeping up a front.
Again, I can't help but think if he and Dale had been given the time to collaborate in regards to the compound, Alby could have been the "great reformer" Dale thought he (Alby) could be. With Dale's influence, I think the underage sealings and boys getting thrown off the compound would have eventually stopped.
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Post by gypzymom on Feb 15, 2010 20:31:04 GMT -5
This episode was so rushed that the timing of it all confused me. It seemed that he tipped off Nikki, and she rescued her kids and in no time at all there's Alby at the apartment. Things just seemed so rushed, I thought it was possible that Alby tipped her off then never showed to perform the sealings (considering what he said about 'if it resembles our past no good will come of it' or something to that effect)
Did anyone else get that impression? Cause we didn't see Alby anywhere in that scene. I thought maybe from his phone message to Dale that he had decided to cut and run.
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Post by spiritualtramp on Feb 15, 2010 20:47:29 GMT -5
I think you're right that the sealings weren't to be done by Alby. Which brings up the question, who was going to do them? Did Alby have a change of heart and had left everyone hanging, or was JJ going to do them after Alby bailed? He does seem like a plausible contender for the position of Prophet at this point!
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Post by marigoldmama on Feb 15, 2010 20:52:39 GMT -5
How 'bout this?
Wanda is being resealed because of JJ!
JJ has something on Joey (killing Roman) and he wants Wanda resealed. JJ talked Alby into doing it, for some reason. Maybe JJ knows about Alby and his sexual escapades?
Maybe JJ demanded that Wanda be resealed and told her to do it or else he will reveal those pictures of Joey digging up Roman?
There was a foreshadowing there with Wanda and Joey in bed and Wanda saying how much she loved Joey etc.
I didn't even notice the whole Wanda thing until you guys brought it up.
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Post by JJ77 on Feb 15, 2010 21:47:49 GMT -5
I dont think Alby would have to be coerced / persuaded to perform a sealing. I know we've been seeing this new "softer" side to Alby via his relationship with Dale, but I dont think that completlely negates his beleifs or his other (vengeful, power mad) side.
After denying the snakes, stalking and basically being "the devil" Bill described to Dale - when Dale asked him "are you still performing sealings?" Alby didnt make any attempt to deny it. He even said something about it being an integral part of his beleifs... or something to that effect.
I think his sealing adaleen to JJ held some personal vengeful satisfaction , but I dont think it was an exception to some rule - just an added bonus. As for Caralyn - didnt adaleen tell nicki that roman had already arranged it before he died?
Here's a question though - if it's safe to assume that adaleen and JJ were sealed (we didnt see the ceremony but we did see the start of their "consumation" right?) then could it be possible caralyn had already been sealed when Nicki showed up as well?
I'll have to pay more attention when i re-watch it, but was it stated one way or another?
If she hadnt already been sealed, would she have been allowed alone in a motel room with that man?
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Post by ragnarockette on Feb 15, 2010 22:22:26 GMT -5
Remember Rhonda was allowed alone with Roman when she was "placed."
Like Ray Henry said about Roman - "women are the currency he uses to cement his power." If Alby stopped giving the old men the pretty new wives he probably wouldn't be such a popular choice for Prophet.
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Feb 15, 2010 22:25:17 GMT -5
I don't think the Prophet is the only person who can do a sealing. He might have to give a blessing if they are living on the compound, but just like Bill had someone come in for he and Anna, and someone come in for Sarah and Scott... I think there are certain people higher up in the church who can perform sealings.
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Post by gypzymom on Feb 16, 2010 1:22:05 GMT -5
On second watch Cara Lynn wasn't sealed yet. Toby said, "You'll be my seventh." Sounds like it hadn't happened yet. I think the assumption that Alby was going to do the sealing was that he said so on the phone to Nikki. HE had to go to the La Esperanza. and he said yes that HE was going to seal their mother to JJ. Thank goodness she decided to take a stand for her mom or she'd have never stumbled onto the situation with her kid!
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Post by marionj2 on Feb 17, 2010 21:54:09 GMT -5
I wasn't entirely sure why Alby wasn't supposed to be doing sealings, or why Bill thought it was evil on a par with trying to kill his father.
I got the impression it had to do with the investigation of the UEB, but I'm not sure why. (Putting aside the question of the women's ages.) Was there a total ban on marriages? Arranged marriages? Was it likely to bring the authorities down to investigate the compound?
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Post by JJ77 on Feb 17, 2010 22:55:30 GMT -5
I thnk ot put aside the women's aages kind of puts aside what the real issue was with the sealings. That was the baiss of the charges against roman and why the UEB was originally being investigated , right?
I think Bill's referring to the seaings at JC were about all the underage girls, women being bartered in general , etc. Obviously he's aware that Alby intended to seal his mother in law (adlaeen) to his wife's ex husband.
I dont know if the sealings were banned in genral though? Doesnt seem the state would haev the authority to say a consenting legal age couple coudlnt be married or sealed though.
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