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Post by jules on Mar 9, 2011 13:02:09 GMT -5
;D Margene looked like she was "speechless" with the conversation that they were having. My first thought when Barb was speaking about others in this room and their needs is she was just not admitting that she was talking about herself. If Bill goes to jail, it's time to find Tommy!
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Post by duets on Mar 9, 2011 13:40:12 GMT -5
This should be interesting to see how it plays out. Barb raises some good points. Nicki sits there & really isn't bothered w/fact that it may become an issue for Barb & Margene. Margene, the look on her face, I think reality has finally/NOW set in! I gotta laugh, while watching this, I notice all four of them are sitting here discussing their sex lives etc. Meanwhile, no one is watching the kids. Hmm, CL is probably down the street actively pursuing hers.
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 9, 2011 13:54:10 GMT -5
I'm sure Ben's watching the kids. He seems to be able to build a relationship and worry about his family!
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Mar 9, 2011 17:38:59 GMT -5
I think Bill would end up having a gay love affair with his cell mate and finding a way to twist the scriptures to make it all seem alright... Saying he had a revelation from heavenly father....
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 9, 2011 18:17:13 GMT -5
I think Bill would end up having a gay love affair with his cell mate and finding a way to twist the scriptures to make it all seem alright... Saying he had a revelation from heavenly father.... It's either that or he's forced to have sex with the one wife that doesn't like sex.
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 9, 2011 18:32:12 GMT -5
My worse fear: Margene runs to Pam and tells her to look up that Mormon guy that wanted to date Margene. Can you just see Margene living right there in that same house with her sweet Mr. Nice Guy going off to work every morning?
Maybe he would even agree to let Margene have a baby for Pam and her husband, after the two of them have a few of their own. IVF, of course.
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Post by southernsong on Mar 10, 2011 21:37:06 GMT -5
Do you remember back in season 4 when Nicki and Bill were fighting after her affair with Ray Henry? Barb and Margie told Bill that they were giving Nicki their nights and the look on his face was priceless. Can you imagine how he feels about only having her for the next 20 years?
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Post by aliensummer on Mar 11, 2011 9:37:01 GMT -5
Do you remember back in season 4 when Nicki and Bill were fighting after her affair with Ray Henry? Barb and Margie told Bill that they were giving Nicki their nights and the look on his face was priceless. Can you imagine how he feels about only having her for the next 20 years? In all fairness, I don't think Bill made that face at that point because he had to have sex with Nicki on those days, but because their relationship was shit at that time. They weren't even talking, let alone having sex. Bill was even thinking about divorcing her because of the affair. We have seen on other occasions that Nicki and Bill do have a good sexual relationship. In first season, didn't Nicki and Bill have sex on one of the other wive's day (I think it was Margene)? I remember Margene being super ticked off about it. And Nicki must enjoy sex enough to pretend that she wants to get pregnant in order to get more time with Bill, even though she's on the pill. The two certainly have their problems, but I think Bill's biggest problem is going to be that he's used to having three women rely on him for their sexual needs. I don't think he's going to be able to stand sleeping with only one person, regardless of who that one person is! Also, Bill's not going to have a boyfriend. He's going to be someone's bitch. He's too soft to be an equal in a place like that, and guys in prison don't take too kindly to people with the kind of charges he's looking at.
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 11, 2011 12:26:02 GMT -5
Bill tried to "please" Nikki by using some variation in the sex life. Remember the scene on the sofa in the basement. Nikki didn't like it and wanted to go back to "face to face, like we always do."
I don't think Nikki made up the I-want-to-get-pregnant thing because she wanted more sex with Bill, I think she just wanted to take him away from Barb and Margene. She would say she was ovulating and needed him that night. Wasn't that about the time Bill and Barb were having the affair? Nikki figured out about the affair and was fighting back to get Bill's attention.
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Post by aliensummer on Mar 11, 2011 12:39:28 GMT -5
Bill tried to "please" Nikki by using some variation in the sex life. Remember the scene on the sofa in the basement. Nikki didn't like it and wanted to go back to "face to face, like we always do." I don't think Nikki made up the I-want-to-get-pregnant thing because she wanted more sex with Bill, I think she just wanted to take him away from Barb and Margene. She would say she was ovulating and needed him that night. Wasn't that about the time Bill and Barb were having the affair? Nikki figured out about the affair and was fighting back to get Bill's attention. Bill tried oral sex on Nicki because Margene told him he should after Nicki made a big fuss about how it was degrading that Bill was doing that to Margene. She didn't like it, so they had "face to face" sex instead. My point about bringing up the fake wanting to get pregnant situation was more to point out the fact that Nicki and Bill have had a good sexual relationship at one point (if not still, they don't really talk about it this season other than the fact that he can't look Margene in the face during sex anymore). I'm sure they were having sex those evenings, and I don't think Bill was all that upset about it. I think that Bill and Nicki have ups and downs in their relationship, but Bill has ups and downs with Margene and Barb too.
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 11, 2011 14:34:48 GMT -5
Just saying.....sex, like everything else in Nikki's life is just a tool to get to what she really wants, whatever that is!
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Post by momb on Mar 11, 2011 14:41:23 GMT -5
That would make a great topic: What does Nikki really want?
I think she wants validation as an individual, not as Roman's daughter, not as Bill's wife, but simply on her own merit. But, she also wants love, and, because of her experience, she can't fathom love without having to completely sacrifice her individuality. So her two deepest needs are constantly warring.
What do you think?
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Post by writerwannabe on Mar 11, 2011 14:43:03 GMT -5
I think we need a new thread!
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Post by withay on Mar 11, 2011 20:19:47 GMT -5
If they trap Alby for the murder of Verlan, just in case none of the rapists, murders, arsons, whatever in the poky with him want anything to do with him, will he, Alby, get conjugal visits??? And who the heck would have him?? Lura. I think Lura still loves him, she is just afraid of what he has become. If he was in jail and had his wings clipped, so to speak, she would feel safe to love him again.
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Post by duets on Mar 14, 2011 0:06:36 GMT -5
Poor Margene, I realize she's desperate to see Bill if he winds up in jail; but I honestly doubt that her being pg w/his child would change the rules of visitation in jail, as far as conjugal visits go.
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