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Post by kambria on Mar 1, 2010 22:27:16 GMT -5
incest. incest. incest!!!!
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Post by miceelf on Mar 1, 2010 23:45:01 GMT -5
I havent changed my mind on the whole inbreeding / artificial insemination theory - BUT... it did occur to me (for the first time in a while, since we've been rolling with this theory so long) the actual show has never confirmed indefinitely ANY part of it. - not even th parents being siblings. lol wouldnt it throw a monkey wrench in our percetion if it turns out there is no inbreeding? and it's somethign else entirely?! LOL No, you are right, they haven't confirmed it. But there are just too many similarities to stories about the FLDS that have been in the news -- down to the pure bloodline inbreeding, and the lack of fingernails due to recessive genes. www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy25.htmlThat article isn't new -- it's from 1999. JJ and Wanda are definitely brother and sister, and it's clear that there was some horrible abuse he committed on her. And her bizarre parents are just to "affectionate" -- in the most disgusting way possible. So I really do think we are on the right track.
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lynng
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Post by lynng on Mar 2, 2010 12:09:56 GMT -5
What was going on with all of toasts? JJ, JJ's parents, Adaleen, and a lot of other people were sitting in a dining room setting. JJ said something and everyone took a drink, JJ's father said something and everyone took a drink, JJ's mother said something and everyone took a drink. It seemed to me that as the toasting went on Adaleen became very uncomfortable and weary. I thought they were drinking a jim jones type of kool aid at first.
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Post by JJ77 on Mar 3, 2010 19:04:14 GMT -5
synopsis for the finale says something about the kansas compound making national news. I'm thinking this is why - incest / inbreeding / etc. Like i said, I havent changed my mind - all signs point to go lol I just thought wow , wouldnt that be a killer twist if they were leading us to draw that conclusion only to completey flip the script ?
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Post by rhinestone_cowgirl on Mar 3, 2010 19:13:41 GMT -5
I think they may keep this hanging on until season five; there is no way they can wrap this whole thing up in one episode. I think cloning is a bit TOO far fetched; even by the standards of season 4 of big love; that isn't just daytime soap-esque its telenovello esque (I remember there was one called O Clon (El Clone in Spanish) that I saw on Serbian TV of all places; between the original Portuguese soundtrack and the Serbian subtitles I could figure out what was going on lol.
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Post by rissmeek on Mar 3, 2010 19:22:24 GMT -5
Forgot to add, That woman (JJ's mother) called Adaleen a mongrel. A mongrel is a mixed breed isn't it? Not like how pure JJ's family is because they are from the same family. Was that what she meant or was implying? I looked up mongrel just so we'd have some clarification. In animals - mixed-breed or mutt versus purebred In humans - derogatory term used for the mixing of races On a side note in Australia it refers to an ill-bred man; a man of poor manners or morals So to me that says she was making a jab because Adaleen isn't purebred
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Post by mellkell on Mar 3, 2010 20:19:16 GMT -5
I think there definnielty is incest in wandas family -- sadly bewyween all of them-- actually the mother creeps me out the most-- but it must really be something awful waht JJ has done-- it has caused Wanda to become catatonic and Adaleen has been through some pretty bad/scary times, but I never saw her so alarmed as when she was asking JJ what he did to her-- she was as terrified as Wanda
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Post by withay on Mar 7, 2010 3:06:38 GMT -5
I don't think there is any way that the issues raised by incest and/or cloning can be resolved in the one remaining episode this season. I do think that the "secrets" about JJ and the Kansas compound and whether Bill is elected will be known. We will have to wait until next season to have all of the questions resolved (as much as they can be). Sort of like the end of season 1 and how the story picked up at the beginning of the next season.
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Post by frazzz on Mar 7, 2010 12:55:19 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this, but since you're talking about inbreeding I'll put it here. Please move it, if it belongs elsewhere.-- I've been watching a marathon of Seasons One and Two, so I don't remember when this occured, but here goes... There was a big get-together at the compound (might have been when they got together for the big family portrait) and Adaleen was giving out biscuits to everyone while explaining her family tree to a chubby little girl named Josie. Adaleen explains... "I'm 32 of 56 children. And when I married Roman, I became my own step grandma...because my father married Roman's daughter, Bayleen. Would you care for a biscuit? So, little Josie, that makes you my step grandma...and I'm your step mom. And when I had Alby he became my great uncle and I became his great, great grandmother. Which of course, makes me my own grandmother." I was only able to keep that straight thanks to closed captioning and the pause button while watching the DVD's on my computer!!! Bayleen (spelled baleen means whalebone! ) was a daughter of Roman. Adaleen's father married her. But I'm not sure Bayleen was actually Adaleen's flesh and blood mother. Her father could have had other wives, one of whom was Adaleen's real mother, making Bayleen a mother in name only. AGH, I'M MAKING MY OWN HEAD SPIN NOW!!! But if Adaleen IS the real daughter of Bayleen, that would make Roman her grandfather. Then when she married Roman and had Alby, he would indeed be her son AND great uncle. Hmmm.... Another thing I caught rewatching the first and second seasons, was somewhere Hollis Greene referred to Selma as his BROTHER! I thought they were husband and wife. And that Selma was Roman's sister. OK, my head is sufficiently spinning now. Hope my daughter-in-law returns Season Three today so I can continue OD'ing on Big Love!!!
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Mar 7, 2010 15:20:07 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this, but since you're talking about inbreeding I'll put it here. Please move it, if it belongs elsewhere.-- I've been watching a marathon of Seasons One and Two, so I don't remember when this occured, but here goes... There was a big get-together at the compound (might have been when they got together for the big family portrait) and Adaleen was giving out biscuits to everyone while explaining her family tree to a chubby little girl named Josie. Adaleen explains... "I'm 32 of 56 children. And when I married Roman, I became my own step grandma...because my father married Roman's daughter, Bayleen. Would you care for a biscuit? So, little Josie, that makes you my step grandma...and I'm your step mom. And when I had Alby he became my great uncle and I became his great, great grandmother. Which of course, makes me my own grandmother." I was only able to keep that straight thanks to closed captioning and the pause button while watching the DVD's on my computer!!! Bayleen (spelled baleen means whalebone! ) was a daughter of Roman. Adaleen's father married her. But I'm not sure Bayleen was actually Adaleen's flesh and blood mother. Her father could have had other wives, one of whom was Adaleen's real mother, making Bayleen a mother in name only. AGH, I'M MAKING MY OWN HEAD SPIN NOW!!! But if Adaleen IS the real daughter of Bayleen, that would make Roman her grandfather. Then when she married Roman and had Alby, he would indeed be her son AND great uncle. Hmmm.... Another thing I caught rewatching the first and second seasons, was somewhere Hollis Greene referred to Selma as his BROTHER! I thought they were husband and wife. And that Selma was Roman's sister. OK, my head is sufficiently spinning now. Hope my daughter-in-law returns Season Three today so I can continue OD'ing on Big Love!!! OH MY GOODNESS!!! I remember that scene too lol! That is crazy! So lets try and figure out how Selma could be Hollis's brother and wife. LOL!
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Post by marionj2 on Mar 13, 2010 12:54:24 GMT -5
I think the fact that Hollis treats Selma as a man, and as his enforcer, is very interesting. Since he also apparently treats her as a loving wife. Makes you really wonder about their sex life, doesn't it? All together now...EEEEWWWWW!
I think he calls her his brother because he thinks of her as an in-charge person, with real authority in their family group, and that's a role only given to men.
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Post by BigLoveRocks! on Mar 13, 2010 21:47:16 GMT -5
I think the fact that Hollis treats Selma as a man, and as his enforcer, is very interesting. Since he also apparently treats her as a loving wife. Makes you really wonder about their sex life, doesn't it? All together now...EEEEWWWWW! I think he calls her his brother because he thinks of her as an in-charge person, with real authority in their family group, and that's a role only given to men. Yeah somehow in bed, I suspect Selma wears a big black strap on and Hollis becomes "Holly".
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